Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater Sault Ste. Marie

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The result of the debate was delete. Rossami (talk) 22:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

The arguments for and against re-creating this article as a redirect only were less clear-cut. Reviewing the comments and the evidence, I do not personally find enough evidence that this particular phrase is in sufficient use to justify the creation of the redirect. However, that is a personal decision, not a decision in my role as the closing admin. Rossami (talk) 22:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Greater Sault Ste. Marie
The term is only faintly attested; a Google search brings up a whopping total of 25 pages, and even some of those only happen by pure circumstance to have the terms "Sault Ste. Marie" and "greater" coexisting separately within a single page. Also, it doesn't meet the usual understanding of a metropolitan area; all of the named population centres just barely scrape 90,000 in total combined population, and Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario does not have a CMA. (It's not large enough; to be designated a CMA, the urban core alone -- before even factoring the outlying communities -- has to be at least 100k.) I'd suggest that any worthwhile content could be merged into the disambig page that already exists at Sault Ste. Marie, but I don't see what use is served by an article about something that doesn't exist. Bearcat 29 June 2005 05:18 (UTC)
 * Keep, I think this article has potential. --[[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] Spinboy 29 June 2005 05:43 (UTC)
 * Merge anything useful to Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario and delete. DJ Clayworth 29 June 2005 14:30 (UTC)
 * Depends on what the content is. Anything that isn't specifically about Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario would be more appropriately directed to either Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan or the general disambig page at Sault Ste. Marie. Those are three different pages. Bearcat 1 July 2005 16:26 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect with Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. Delete. There is little content here apart from a list of connecting highways and the two townships. If this article were to be kept, it should have a similar format and content as Greater Toronto Area (though it would probably be a lot smaller). --Deathphoenix 29 June 2005 15:49 (UTC)
 * Changed to delete following Carnildo's comment. After some checking, it seems what he says is true. There is no Greater Sault Ste. Marie. --Deathphoenix 29 June 2005 21:29 (UTC)
 * Delete. Term is not in common use. --Carnildo 29 June 2005 20:41 (UTC)
 * Keep, rename to The Soo, and expand. This could be considered an unofficial metroplex.  Also, "The Soo" gets 107,000 google hits and is worth keeping.  Will anybody concur with me now? --SuperDude 30 June 2005 00:02 (UTC)
 * There's no such thing as an "unofficial metroplex"; something is either a metropolitan area or it isn't. With a total combined population of just 90,000, this isn't. And The Soo really doesn't need to be anything more than a redirect to the disambiguation page that already exists at Sault Ste. Marie. Bearcat 30 June 2005 00:41 (UTC)
 * Delete, redirect pto Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; June 30, 2005 12:42 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sister lives on MI side and hasn't heard this term; not really anything worth saving here. .:.Jareth.:. babelfish June 30, 2005 14:28 (UTC)
 * Delete, redirect to Sault Ste. Marie I have heard this from family members who live, or lived, in Sault Ste. Marie, MI, but I don't think its common. Salsb 1 July 2005 20:28 (UTC)
 * Keep. As long as the article specifies that this is somewhat of a colloquial term I think it should be kept. It's not an official designation like the Greater Toronto Area, but does have cachet in the same manner of Chicagoland. --NormanEinstein July 4, 2005 17:56 (UTC)
 * Cachet? It gets all of 25 Google hits, which means it's not even a significant colloquialism. The usual term for what this article describes is The Soo, not anything with the word "Greater" in it. What this article is is yet another SuperDude115 invention of a non-existent term for something he deems in need of an article. Bearcat 03:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. We don't need a listing of highways etc. Sunray July 7, 2005 05:46 (UTC)


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