Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greece–Nicaragua relations


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The result was   keep. J04n(talk page) 12:32, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Greece–Nicaragua relations

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fails WP:GNG. even the Greek foreign ministry says hardly anything about relations. those wanting to keep must show evidence of indepth third party coverage. Many many countries have given Nicaragua aid, that in itself does not warrant notability. LibStar (talk) 00:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Comment - Not finding significant coverage in reliable sources for relations between these countries. This page from the Hellenic Republic (Greek government) has only 2 sentences of information. This article from 1898 is about Greece denying the sale of warships to Nicaragua. Not finding much else in Google News archive and Google Books. Appears to fail WP:N for a Wikipedia article. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Modified my !vote above, per new sources found and improvements to the article. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:14, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Latin America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: I didn't find too much else, but this is certainly interesting "In 1985 the Socialist government in Greece secretly donated 5000 G-3 rifles to Nicaragua to support the Sandinistas." I've added and cited it. --99of9 (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I found some more about this (added to the article), and it seems to be an important enough phase of foreign policy to be noteworthy of study. Greece's support of Nicaragua went as far as secretly giving them weapons and calling the USA terrorists. --99of9 (talk) 01:36, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment I also suspect a majority of sources would not be in English. Any Greek or Spanish speakers want to give it a search? --99of9 (talk) 00:51, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 15:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. Like almost everthing in Category:Bilateral relations of Greece and Category:Bilateral relations of Nicaragua most of these topics are inherently notable but require looking beyond English sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:33, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * no reason provided to establish notability. WP:MUSTBESOURCES. Bilateral relations are not inherently notable. Over 100 have been deleted. LibStar (talk) 14:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Libstar, can I ask you to clarify please. Firstly (1) are you saying there are no sources as of 14:40, 2 February 2013. Secondly (2) may I ask how many of those 100 deleted stubs where at least one of the two was not English-speaking? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:31, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * btw - this AfD appears to have commenced with no WP:GREECE tag on the Talk page. How are members of WP:GREECE supposed to pick up article alerts that an AfD is in process? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:39, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Please provide evidence of sources even in foreign language sources. You have not provided any evidence. LibStar (talk) 10:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * it has been delsorted on 25 January as a Greek topic over a week ago, just like for any relevant country for previous deleted topics. If Greek Wikipedians aren't looking there it's not my fault. LibStar (talk) 10:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Libstar, I asked (1) are you saying there are no sources as of 14:40, 2 February 2013?
 * I don't see how your comment answers my question regarding these sources:


 * Also I asked (2) may I ask how many of those 100 deleted stubs where at least one of the two was not English-speaking? Looking back at history I see about a dozen closed as keep, and 1 Ecuador-Malaysia deleted. But going back further how many of the 100 would an English-issue apply to. I'm guessing almost all? But I could be wrong. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:07, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Anyone is allowed to recreate deleted articles if new significant coverage is found, you are welcome to start. Note that gnews actually includes a lot of foreign language sources. LibStar (talk) 11:13, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * LibStar, could you please answer the questions. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:38, 4 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I'd like to know just how great the economic assistance was, how much money and what impact it had. The fact that Greece "secretly donated 5000 G-3 rifles to Nicaragua to support the Sandinista resistance" shows a notable relationship.  The Prime Minister of Greece speaking out against America's support of one group, and then secretly sending weapons to the group they supported, shows some notable relationships of the past.   D r e a m Focus  14:41, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - encyclopedic subject and sufficent references to make it a notable topic. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
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