Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greed and fear


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep and expand Pascal.Tesson 05:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Greed and fear

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This neologism describes investor behaviour, but has no context outside of the articles Portfolio theory or Risk aversion from which this article forks.--Gavin Collins 10:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletions.   -- Gavin Collins 10:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * What neologism, please ? It is a common phrase that has been used for decades by traders. And that is now an academic research topic in economics and finance. --Pgreenfinch 10:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep The article name seems to be in common use for the contents GB 11:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment A quick Google search brings up the term numerous times in the proper context. It might be merged somewhere, but I don't see a need for deletion.--Wafulz 12:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to Modern_Portfolio_Theory or Risk aversion or both per Gavin Collins. --Nonstopdrivel 12:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as not a neologism, see my comment above. Btw, those emotional biases are exactly opposite to the Modern Portfolio Theory which was an academic product of the 50's and 60's with its so-called "rational" parameters (risk aversion, risk premium, beta coefficient...), "market efficiency" theory and stochastic calculations. --Pgreenfinch 16:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge or expand. This article has been around for three years, but it only has two sentences. If it can't be expanded, it should be merged with a broader subject or transwikied to WikiDictionary. --GentlemanGhost 17:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:NEO stipulates that the word or phrase has “recently been coined,” and there’s nothing recent about the use of “greed and fear” in a financial context. Pgreenfinch correctly notes its long-standing use among traders, and in behavioral finance. Greed and fear are the two sides of the emotional coin that drive bullish and bearish market trends to the eventual sentiment extremes that the technical analysis school follows – please see the Alan Greenspan remark on psychology in that article. Beyond the general Google search Wafulz mentions, Google scholar and Google book search each get many hundreds of results from “greed and fear”.--Rgfolsom 14:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletions.   -- Gavin Collins 15:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * Comment - I thought this phrase was due to John Maynard Keynes. I'm surprised there's no mention of that gentleman in the article. Bigdaddy1981 20:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per above.  Gan fon  23:22, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. My comment above stands here.Rgfolsom 01:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't need to comment twice. The closer will read all arguments, both above and below the closure notice. Sean William @ 01:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with behavioral finance and then delete - no need for this lonely stub. Bigdaddy1981 02:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, there seems to be a history here that could be documented better (the phrase may go back to Robert Louis Stevenson at least). I think the only acceptable merge candidate, if we must, is behavioral finance. --Dhartung | Talk 05:50, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep It is less and less an "lonely stub", and every important concept of behavioral finance (the various investor cognitive and emotional biases, the main market price and return anomalies, the herd effects...) deserves its own page, as is the case for those listed also as cognitive biases for example. --Pgreenfinch 21:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.