Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Green Messiah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Speedy delete g11, book advertising; g12, copyright violation (invalid license). NawlinWiki (talk) 11:52, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Green Messiah

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unpublished work, lacks notability, violates WP:CRYSTAL Wuhwuzdat (talk) 18:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. My PROD tag was removed without any improvement to the article and I am unable to find any indication that this novel has been published, or ever will be published; my understanding is that unpublished works of fiction have no notability.  There is a reference that specifically states it has not been published  but I find it very hard to accept that an unpublished book can become notable for being unpublished.  Accounting4Taste: talk 18:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:BK, specifically WP:BK. Incidentally, the author gives a long extract and asserts copyright, saying that he does not give permission for it to be reproduced elsewhere; he has clearly not read the note on the edit screen which warns that by inserting it "You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the GFDL." JohnCD (talk) 21:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Apologies for amateur contributions to-date. Am Wikipedia novice. Also fairly convinced by arguments above but would ask for this page to be allowed. We hope to supplement with further detail shortly. Green Messiah has not been traditionally published, but it is a complete work by Bristol author Luke Andreski and is due for release by installment over 2009.
 * Please don't delete

Please note that the details provided are factual about the nature of the work and do not seek to advertise it or 'big it up'. They merely state that it now exists as an intellectual entity.

Further references will be added shortly. The newspaper reference so far given is valid.

The novel is an element of a two part project - each element of which we wish to assert as existing intellectual entities about which we believe people should be able to seek information within Wikipedia.

The second entity is the secular eco-creed New Creationism, which is a genuine environmental text despite being featured in the novel. We hope to put details of this on Wikipedia shortly.

Thank you for your consideration.

--AgentAtAWDS (talk) 10:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. WP is not a crystal ball, then there's the WP:BK guideline, and the copyright notice on the article makes it unfit for inclusion under the WP:GFDL anyway. Yinta ɳ   11:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Unfortunately this book doesn't meet notability requirements. Wikipedia is always behind the curve.  Once it becomes notable only THEN can it have an article. Drawn Some (talk) 11:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.