Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greenhill Primary School (Oldham)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of schools in Oldham. Tone 19:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Greenhill Primary School (Oldham)

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Non-notable primary school with no importance asserted. Prod was removed without comment.  Majorly  talk  22:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing to provide any evidence of encyclopaedic notability. The unsourced statement "The school has been very successful in the last few years resulting in some of the highest value added scores in the country." is an assertion of notability in my book, but even if it were verified then it wouldn't be sufficient for an article (If it was consistently getting the highest scores for several years, then I would consider it). Thryduulf (talk) 23:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 23:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 23:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep One of a series of articles nominated together without due process. I shall improve this too when time permits.  See also Articles for deletion/Greenhill Primary School. Colonel Warden (talk) 23:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note The statement "One of a series of articles nominated together without due process" is completely false. I properly checked every single article I nominated.  Majorly  talk  23:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Colonel Warden's keep !vote is lacking a valid rationale, not to mention assuming bad faith. Jeni  ( talk ) 01:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Jeni  ( talk ) 01:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to List of schools in Oldham per precedent. This is a valid search term. Cunard (talk) 02:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to List of schools in Oldham per precedent. WP:Before requires consideration of a merge before deletion. TerriersFan (talk) 03:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The article suggests ("some of the highest scores in the country") that the school might have achieved national recognition or an award. If that's demonstrated, then a keep might be appropriate. Mandsford (talk) 16:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. Contextual Value Added is a statistic manufactured by the government and there is a great deal of debate as to its statistical significance. CVA attempts to measure how much a school improves its pupils given their background and their results between when they start and leave the school.  As such it tends to favour schools in poorer areas where there is scope to improve the performance of pupils.  I understand that on the whole the differences in scores are effectively meaningless.  The average score by definition is 100, this school scores 102.6.  The highest is 104.5., the lowest is 96.1 .  Pit-yacker (talk) 18:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to List of schools in Oldham until there are sufficient reliable sources for an independent V, NPOV, NOR article. Double Blue  (talk) 09:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge as above. Consensus is that primary schools are generally NN.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect as above. Lack of notability is a reason to deny an institution its own page but not a reason not to merge or redirect. We routinely merge non-notable subjects into broader, more notable, articles and the redirect helps readers find the material. Bridgeplayer (talk) 21:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.