Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greenhouse gas emissions in Kentucky


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. All "delete" !votes air concerns about the article's current state. However, AFD is not for cleanup and presents several RS that can be used to improve the article. Randykitty (talk) 11:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Greenhouse gas emissions in Kentucky

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Unexplained prod removal. Whole article is a selection of statistics (WP:NOTSTATS) from a 30-year-old government report, so I'm not sure what the purpose of keeping such an outdated topic is. I don't think just finding updated stats would be a good article topic, with no similar articles for other states, but similar stats at List of U.S. states by carbon dioxide emissions. Reywas92Talk 00:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC) Reywas92Talk 00:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 01:09, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kentucky-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 01:09, 1 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, complete failure of WP:BEFORE. First of all, an article having a single source is not a reason for deletion.  It might be if that were the only source in existence, but that is not the case here.  Secondly, being 30-years old has no basis in policy for discounting it.  Even if it is out of date (and you can only know that if you have found a more recent source, in which case your action should have been to incorporate that source, not nominate for deletion) Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and should rightly include history of its topics.  That includes the state of play of greenhouse gases in Kentucky in 1990.  I am entirely sick of people deleting or overwriting information in Wikipedia because it is out of date when it should just have been rewritten to remove the appearance of being current per MOS:DATED.
 * This is an easily demonstrable notable topic; coal seam fires and the greenhouse gases they produce are a big issue in Kentucky. There have been several published studies into this .  Numerous other scholarly papers can be found on greenhouse gases in the south-eastern United States from which information on Kentucky can be extracted.  Greenhouse Gases: Worldwide Impacts discusses at length plans to store CO2 underground in Kentucky. SpinningSpark 18:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:21, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete When readers click on the link I think they would be expecting to find info about the current situation. So I think it is wasting the reader's time to have info which the reader cannot rely on as current (at least to the past few years) or not. If someone has the time and inclination to update this article they might think it instead more useful to update Greenhouse gas emissions by the United StatesChidgk1 (talk) 12:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * We don't delete articles because they can be improved per WP:ATD which is policy. What is your policy-based reason for deletion? There is also WP:NOTNEWS which says the diametric opposite of expecting to find info about the current situation, namely Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events and is also policy.  If the greenhouse gases in Kentucky in 1990 were notable then, they are still notable now.  And by the way, do you have any actual evidence that this information is out of date?  The coal fires I referred to above are a major, possibly the major, source of greenhouse gas emission in Kentucky and they are still burning now, decades later. SpinningSpark 18:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete or draftify The article merely lists (in prose) measurements from a report. No context, no examination of impact or importance of any of those measurements. Not to say that greenhouse gasses in Kentucky aren't deserving of an article, but this isn't it without significant improvement.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.