Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Gary


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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. -Senseless!... says you, says me 00:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Greg Gary

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College Basketball head coach for Centenary College of Louisiana. No third party, non-trivial sources, a search of Google only finds press releases and one article that qualifies as trivial along with Centenary College's official website, and Google News comes up with zero. I couldn't find specialized notability guidelines for coaches anywhere, not on WP:BASKETBALL, WP:CHOOPS, or WP:SPORTS, so I'm not sure if the fact he coaches for a D1 school makes any difference or not. -Senseless!... says you, says me 22:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep It does matter. Division I basketball is the highest level of amateur basketball competition in the United States.  Please see the declined speedy on Matt Matheny, which was declined as showing proper notability for the same reason. fuzzy510 (talk) 22:23, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Highest level of amateur competition for basketball is the olympics per WP:ATHLETE. -Senseless!... says you, says me 22:24, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The Olympics is NOT amateur competition for basketball in the United States. Additionally, while I can't find exactly where it's been written, but Division I coaches have been considered inherently notable.  --fuzzy510 (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked for something along those lines before I took this to AfD, I couldn't find anything concerning notability of coaches. My feeling was that it would have been one thing if he had taken his school to the NCAA championship game or had multiple Final Four appearances, but he hasn't done anything noteworthy with the school's team as of yet, and beyond that, more importantly, there are no third party, non-trivial sources asserting notability listed. Additionally D1 vs D2 or D3 has to do with scholarships and budget, its not a promotion/ relegation system similar to European Soccer leagues. -Senseless!... says you, says me 22:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Why does it matter that it's not a promotion/relegation system? It doesn't diminish the accepted fact that NCAA Division I is still the highest level of competition that in which a basketball player can engage participate in the United States without playing professionally.  --fuzzy510 (talk) 22:50, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The quality of play is generally higher in D1. Zagalejo^^^ 23:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Additional note for full disclosure I am the article creator. fuzzy510 (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll say Weakish keep. Did you check the Google News archive? Here are some fairly recent articles about him. At least some of those should count. Gary also received some media attention during his career as a player.  Of note is the fact that he participated on Tulane's first team that reached the NCAA tournament.  Centenary is one of the more obscure D1 schools, so I wouldn't argue that all Centenary coaches are inherently notable, but there actually is something to say about this guy, so I'm not opposed to having an article. Zagalejo^^^ 23:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently not (then again I was primarily looking for things concerning him as a coach), thanks for finding those references. I'm on my way to a recital, but I'll add them in when I get back tonight. -Senseless!... says you, says me 00:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


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