Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Howlett


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 08:03, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Greg Howlett

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Non-notable musician and businessman, can't find any reliable 3rd-party references supporting notability of subject MuffledThud (talk) 17:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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 * Comment - Not sure how Greg Howlett notability is open for debate. First, there is a reliable 3rd-party reference used in the article.  It is a university publication.

Secondly, Greg Howlett is a fairly well-known Christian concert pianist who performs numerous concert dates a year. He is a well-published writer (search on his name) and is the founder and CEO of a multi-million dollar company. Fredkelly1 (talk) 20:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I should have been more specific in the nomination. I can find no evidence in the article or in a Google search that he is notable per WP:MUSIC or WP:BIO.  A CEO of a notable company might himself be notable, but the company itself isn't notable, so it's unlikely that he's notable as a businessman.  The university publication is potentially reliable, but might also have a potential conflict of interest in a report about how successful its alumni are.  Can you find any further WP:Reliable sources supporting his notability as a musician or businessman? MuffledThud (talk) 23:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Fredkelly1 (talk) 20:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 
 * Comment - A university publication is only potentially reliable? That seems strange to me considering that academic resources are considered reliable.  However, there are also multiple reputable news sources online that print his bio such as http://www.webpronews.com/user/greg-howlett.
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Weak delete The article cites three sources - one is self published (throw that out), one is a university publication, but it's a marketing brochure, and the other is to archived articles on an eCommerce site. A google search yields nothing of note musically, but contributions to several on-line business sites. Now, the content of the articles wouldn't establish notability (for the subject), but that the subject is on several different sites may be the notability key. IMO, the sites are minor, and the articles themselves don't seem to be cited by anyone else. The number of different sites is the rationale for my weak in the delete, however.Vulture19 (talk) 01:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: trivial 3rd party coverage WP:MUSICBIO. JamesBurns (talk) 03:38, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete The sources included with the article do not show evidence that the subject currently has the life achievement for an encyclopedia entry. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 18:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


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