Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Miller (Internet celebrity)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 02:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Greg Miller (Internet celebrity)

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References don't support notability. Currently all that's in the article is a bunch of first-party accounts from Youtube and social media. Please see Articles for deletion/Colin Moriarty specifically the comment by User:czar. Peter Rehse (talk) 10:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Tentative Keep as having multiple, reliable, independent, non-trivial sources for WP:GNG, such as WP:VG/RS. (lesser, not on list ). The article seems to imply notable presence and some of it can probably be sourced from a variety of other sources. I'm always iffy on people's notability, as sources are usually either in relation to their work or direct interviews. But I would say it seems sufficient for GNG. —  HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 23:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Game Awards win looks good and gives some coverage. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:05, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Definite Keep He is one of the most well known and influential internet podcasters and certainly deserves an entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt14451 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Definite Keep He has one of the top podcasts on the internet and deserves this entry for all the years he's put into his work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.15.204.140 (talk) 23:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note that articles are primarily decided based on whether the topic is notable in Wikipeda terms, that is, meets WP:GNG criteria - multiple, reliable, independent, in-depth sources, such as WP:VG/RS. While being influential/famous presumes notability, it is the existence of sources that determines so on Wikipedia. Wikipedia has to be verifiable and that is done by sourcing. Nothing to do with "deserving" or any other measure. Deletion arguments that do not provide or dispute such sources are typically not relevant or accounted for. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 23:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Two of the !votes above do not provide guideline-based rationales for retention. North America1000 02:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:40, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Definite Keep has just won The Game Awards 2015 in "trending gamer" category .  --Jules  (Mrjulesd) 15:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Extremely Deleted or Redircted to IGN, I never heard him, I assuming he probably or super oblivously self-embarssed sterotypical hipster gamer from judging by his look? And really?!?, He got his page just quick only because people remember him recently doesnt help his page to stand up? 70.61.121.86 (talk) 16:13, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * So basically WP:IDONTLIKE ?  --Jules (Mrjulesd) 16:25, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Possibly sure? 70.61.121.86 (talk) 16:32, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * So WP:IMSUREIDONTLIKE. OK got it. Thanks for your contribution.  --Jules (Mrjulesd) 21:12, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Put still they souldnt call him as real Gamer of this year for 2015 put in same time as Ex-IGN Editor, Maybe dont to be somewhat unintentional boost his own ego, I only thought want Markiplier won, To replace PewDiePie this time?, Put anyway what you really been immature right now, Seen is oblivously red link with not in used in simliar way like WP:IDONTLIKE 70.61.121.86 (talk) 16:32, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * What Jules is getting at is that discussions on Wikipedia are not votes and are considered in terms of arguments. In this case, the only really relevant argument is whether Wikipedia's notability criteria are met - multiple, reliable, independent, in-depth sources, such as WP:VG/RS. Saying "keep" or "delete" without basing this on Wikipedia's policies/guidelines is otherwise pointless. Whether you have heard of him or believe he deserves a page is irrelevant. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:41, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep The page needs some cleaning up to make it a lot less "crufty", however he clearly meets WP:GNG. Wildthing61476 (talk) 21:22, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


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