Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gregor Rosinger


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:35, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Gregor Rosinger

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This article is neither fish nor fowl. It appears to be a biography, but the wording is at least 50% about a corporation. The references are all corporate. The corporation is the entity that appears to be notable, simply sharing the name of its founder. Fiddle  Faddle  09:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete Simply a puff piece. Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. scope_creep talk 15:35, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Similar arguments about personal vs corporate notability can be seen in the German Wikipedia debate which led to the subject's biography being deleted. AllyD (talk) 09:10, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of biographical notability. (I also doubt that an article on the subject's firm would meet WP:CORPDEPTH.) AllyD (talk) 09:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per nom. This is where Rosinger Group is covered, so if that entity is notable then the article is worth keeping. Renaming it and reworking it to focus on the company seems reasonable based on the noted findings regarding sourcing. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:13, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * An unusual usage of "per nom". If there is an article to be written on the corporation then write it. This one is about the person, a person who seems "increasingly non notable". This article is seeking to enhance his reputation via Wikipedia. Fiddle   Faddle  10:01, 12 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete This article just has too many problems. If someone wants to write a properly sourced and written article about the company that might be okay. Too much promotion and sourcing issues here. The encyclopedia is best served excluding this subject. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I think we do need an article on either him or his firm, and this is a place to start, Which of the two it should be on is pretty much of a toss-up. The notability of a investment firm of this sort is closely connected with the founder. The best distinguishing factor is the size of the firm--there will always be some sources, but it's hard to sort out the degree to which they might be PR.  As for promotionalism, it would be the same whether the title of the article is the person or the company.  The deWP deletion is not a precedent for us--our standards are not usually   as restrictive.  DGG ( talk ) 04:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:26, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep as Person. Also other Investors use their Investment-Vehicle for doing Investments - it is important who is the CEO and Majority owner and makes the Investment decision. Think about People like Warren Buffet, George Soros or in Austria Ronny Pecik, Rene Benko, Georg Stumpf, a.s.o. These People are in Wikipedia as natural Person because they are in their driver Seat of their Investment-Firms. For the Rosinger Group the Person Gregor Rosinger is in that position as Decision-maker, he is CEO and owner (together with his wife) and I know (from the source from Capital IQ Standard & Poor's and because of working as Investmentbanker in the same Market where Rosinger operates as Investor) that Gregor Rosinger is investing also as natural Person - he is not always using his investment Vehicles...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallstreet Fighter (talk • contribs) 20:12, 19 September 2013 (UTC)   — Wallstreet Fighter (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  Fiddle   Faddle  22:38, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep As both a private investor as well as a founder, CEO and owner of an investment firm I believe he has the relevance to be kept in here as a private person. Maybe adding another page for Rosinger Group would be good to make a distinction between the person and the corporation and to make the picture whole? HawaiianRainbow (talk) 00:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)  — HawaiianRainbow (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  Fiddle   Faddle  22:38, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep It’s very important that other people also know the person who stands for and behind the company Rosinger Group who is Gregor Rosinger. The founder of such investment companys is a main part of the whole company system because he built up this business and he makes the important decisions and has the most influence on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Witch cat 2907 (talk • contribs) — Witch cat 2907 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  This was on the AfD talk page. I have moved it here for completeness.  Fiddle   Faddle  12:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep as person No PLC or LLC makes the decision of the company, basically the persons behind make it. In this case Gregor Rosinger is the person behind Rosinger Group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horse-girl2013 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 23 September 2013 (UTC)  —  Horse-girl2013 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  Fiddle   Faddle  23:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Mr. Rosinger obviously has major power over the Rosinger Group but also does investments not linked to his corporation at all. The facts are proved by numerous sources and seem to be of notability. Therefore I regard it as important to keep him as a person.   Mani13051972 (talk) 12:47, 24 September 2013 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mani130572 (talk • contribs)  — Mani130572 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  Fiddle   Faddle  10:57, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note we seem to be getting a load of people arrive who are single purpose accounts. The need to be aware that a discussion is not a ballot, and that a simple count of numbers does not 'win the day'. The only thing that wins the day here is an article that is fit to remain here. I can;t find the form of words to put at the head of the discussion to dissuade !vote stacking.  Fiddle   Faddle  10:57, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
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