Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gregory Short


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The result was no consensus defaulting to Keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. After three relists we have a single weak keep. That's not enough for any consensus and I am not a fan of endless relistings. It's time to move on. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:34, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Gregory Short

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This article was created by a WP:SPA editor, and I've spent a lot of time trying to clean it up as the creating editor continually re-inserts stylistic problems. However, as I look more closely at it, I'm not sure it really meets Wikipedia notability requirements. The subject, Gregory Short, was a local composer in the Pacific Northwest. Most of his accomplishments and potential claims of notability seem to be highly local:


 * The Washington State Teachers Association, of which Short was a member and adjudicator, once voted him Composer of the Year and commissioned him to write a piece;
 * He "taught at the college and university level for decades" (what schools, or his notability as an educator, is not stated);
 * He has a fairly long list of compositions, List of compositions by Gregory Short, two of which apparently have actually been recorded (see his entry on AllMusic);
 * When he died, he did rate an obituary in the Seattle Times.

However, I don't think that any of these factors, or all taken together, meet notability requirements.

I am also nominating the companion "List of compositions" article as part of this AfD; if the composer does not meet notability, the list of his compositions does not, either:

TJRC (talk) 22:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Add'l comment from nom: I also nominated a draftspace equivalent of the same article last week; I didn't want to have that sneak by, so I'm alerting here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Gregory Short. TJRC (talk) 23:34, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
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Nicely argued TJRC. What about usage statistics before pulling the plug? TIA

JRCBaker (talk) 00:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps if there were a group of Northwest Composers working off the local waters and mountains and traditional cultures, Greg would be at the top of the notability in that category.

JRCBaker (talk) 00:57, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. TJRC (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Comment – Note that two articles are nominated for deletion herein. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:47, 29 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Note that two articles are nominated for deletion herein.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:08, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep -- the paper ran an obit and composed at least one symphony link. I'd say that warrants a stub. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:03, 17 June 2017 (UTC)


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