Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grey Council


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify. In anticipation that article has a potential to be a well developed article at some point in time. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades of Godric On leave 05:22, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Grey Council

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Fictional plot element with zero refs and zero indication of significance outside its fictional universe. Before someone suggests 'merge to Minbari', I'd point out that merging unreferenced content is not very helpful. Sure, we can expand that section by dumping that article there, but it only makes it more likely the Minbari article will end up in AfD eventually, with a likely outcome of 'remove unreferenced/OR' content. And do note that referencing this to primary sources or 'encyclopedias of B5' is not going to help that much - see discussion here and in the next thread on that page. PS. To be clear, I am not objecting to 'merge and redirect', but I don't think there is anything to merge since the content of the article is unreferenced fan OR - a soft deletion by redirecting would be IMHO the best option. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 14:22, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep I have plenty of offline refs to prove this. Nominator making another Babylon 5 fictional element deletion nomination after this is simply inconsiderate. Jclemens (talk) 16:33, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Jclemens. BOZ (talk) 15:48, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Draftify and allow the article to be fully developed and resubmitted, assuming notability can be proven.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:56, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Draftify as better alternative to keep. L3X1 (distænt write)  03:43, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Minbari. Regardless of the nom statement, it looks like this article covers a lot of the history of the Minbari, which is almost entirely absent from the parent article, so a merge would make that article whole again. This article probably doesn't have enough of a claim to notability, and the parent article would have a significantly better one. This would be a valid R from subtopic to the #government section there. Draftifying wouldn't solve the issue that this really should be merged with the parent article and wouldn't promote the development of text for a merge. Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:47, 10 October 2017 (UTC)


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