Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greydon Square (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Greydon Square
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Rapper who does not appear to meet WP:MUSIC. The albums all appear to be self-produced. The only source I can find that might be considered a WP:RS in which some discussion of the subject occurs in depth is the cited article from the Phoenix New Times, which might fall under the usual local arts scene coverage as the subject is claimed to reside in Phoenix. The other references provided are either primary sources, dead links, or trivial coverage; for example, the claimed "article" at ReverbNation.com is actually his artist profile, which itself is a mirror of this article. There is no added evidence since the previous deletion that he is notable as either an atheist or as a rapper, and thus does not meet WP:GNG. Kinu t /c  23:26, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Phoenix New Times article is fine as a RS and is certainly significant coverage. Google Scholar shows 6 relevant scholarly articles that discuss him in the context of his atheism, albeit briefly. Perhaps not clear cut, but enough to keep it in my view.--Michig (talk) 07:06, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * From what I can see, all of these articles appear to contain only a passing mention of the subject; for example, the Shapin article (of which the results include two translations also) simply states The University of Birmingham celebrated with The Rap Guide to Evolution, featuring the ‘African-American Atheist Rapper Greydon Square’, the ‘self-styled “Walking Stephen Hawking”’ with no further mention of the subject anywhere else in the article. The other sources appear to be similarly passing mentions. Can you indicate which of these sources contain actual non-trivial coverage to support a WP:BLP? -- Kinu t /c  21:56, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Since I already stated that they discussed him briefly, why ask which of them contain non-trivial coverage? The fact that he is being mentioned as an example of atheist artists in these articles is the relevant factor here. By the way, WP:LOCAL relates to places of local interest - Greydon Square isn't a place.--Michig (talk) 05:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have added another notable article to this wiki. This artist meets an ensemble requirement as he has collaborated and performed with hip-hop artist Canibus. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2011/02/canibus_at_club_red_last_night.php --Halfsight (talk) 05:49, 4 April 2011
 * If you're looking for more coverage, I know that he was interviewed on both The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe and Skepticality, the former twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.31.106.35 (talk) 17:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Just added two links to a CBC documentary which featured Greydon Square. Canada's national TV is a WP:RS, and shows that this rapper is not just a local artist but is notable on an international level.24.125.36.128 (talk) 06:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep notable enough per the sources. HHaeyyn89 (talk) 19:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep National TV on CBC is a worthy citation in my book Jtbobwaysf (talk) 17:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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