Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Griffin Roberts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to St. Louis Cardinals minor league players. Clearly deletion is off the agenda and opinion is split between 'keep' and 'merge'. I am unconvinced that a further relist would clarify matters sufficiently to justify the relist. Looking at the 'keeps' I am not finding them convincing and though the keeps are saying WP:GNG is met there is no explanation as to how WP:GNG is met. On balance, my view is that 'merge' best meets consensus. Just Chilling (talk) 21:26, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Griffin Roberts

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Hasn't yet played a MLB game, solely played in the minors. Does not currently meet the notability guidelines of WP:NBASEBALL. Bkissin (talk) 15:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Merge to St. Louis Cardinals minor league players. He was a first round pick of the Cardinals and is still playing in their farm system. Spanneraol (talk) 15:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep "Hasn't played in MLB yet" is not a deletion rationale. True, he does not meet NBASE as of today, but I created it because I believe he meets WP:GNG, which supersedes NBASE. Obviously, merging would be preferable to deletion. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep the Article. But merging with an Article about Golf is best option for it.Forest90 (talk) 16:57, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ??? Golf?  Spanneraol (talk) 17:44, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment I would be fine with a Merge/Redirect to St. Louis Cardinals minor league players. The article in its current form is being used as a WP:OSE rationale by WP:PAID editors in Draftspace. Bkissin (talk) 17:55, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, although it's a very weak one, I think. You could make the argument that the 50 game suspension for a second violation of MLB's drug policy satisfies some sense of notability, as the drug issue has become more prevalent in baseball since the Mitchell Report and such lengthy suspensions aren't that common. His status as a 2nd Round draft pick might also push him up there a little, in terms of notability. Striker force Talk 17:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep High MLB draft pick with large contract, suspended but still active. Passes WP:GNG for the draft. the million dollar contract, and or the suspension. Non-trivial coverage can be found to support GNG Tonereport (☎) (My Work) 01:49, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The draft, the contract and the suspension are not things that meet GNG on their own.. lots of higher draft picks than this guy have flamed out without making the majors and his early minor league numbers are not good. Spanneraol (talk) 03:25, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep or Merge per Spannerol. Malmmf (talk) 24:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 13:20, 27 June 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge per Spannerol. If he were a top-15 pick I'd say keep, but given he was the 43rd overall selection I'd say its more appropriate to list him among other Cardinals prospects in St. Louis Cardinals minor league players. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:01, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:36, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge per Spanneraol. William2001(talk) 19:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.