Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grigori Galitsin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 00:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Grigori Galitsin

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Nominated by a new account-holder who cannot create this page. At the moment I have no opinion on the article. Kevin (talk) 05:20, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Grigori Galitsin was arrested and jailed for the production and distribution of underage and illegal pornography. He faced trial in November 2009 and is currently in prison. This article promotes illegal pornography, features links that are permanently removed and links that contain material in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”). Mr. Galitsin has violated and abused me in the past, and this article continues to harm me by using www.wikipedia.org as a platform to disseminate illegal pornography that was reportedly destroyed by regulators. Alice (talk) 5:35, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Article isn't promoting illegal pornography simply by discussing someone who seems to have participated in it any more than an article about Seung-Hui Cho promotes shooting college students. He seems to pass our notability standards, and any other objections are content matters that don't belong here at AFD.  Nyttend (talk) 06:31, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Sorry, but regardless of the claims and trials of the nominee, this article does nothing more than state the facts. It appears to pass WP:N. Gillyweed (talk) 09:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep It is a common error to accuse an information source (like an encyclopedia, news, etc.) of promoting something that it is merely describing. I agree with the others above - this article describes the facts in a neutral way, including the man's criminal history. He probably deserves criticism from his victims, but that can be done elsewhere. An encyclopedia like this one simply describes the facts if they are notable. Doomsdayer520  (Talk|Contribs) 13:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep If this article were to be deleted, it should be on the basis of Galitsin's not meeting WP:NOTABILITY criteria. I believe that Galitsin is notable, having been one of the more popular and recognized online erotic photographers/pornographers during the early-to-mid 2000s, as well as having had numerous non-trivial mentions in the Russian press during his initial criminal investigation. (In fact, translation of this article for Russian Wikipedia is propbably called for.) Iamcuriousblue (talk) 02:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:08, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:09, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. If this article is to survive, it should certainly have a reference to the criminal proceedings in the lead paragraph, especially as this is likely to be part of the subject's notability.  Also, as pointed out by the complainant, a number of the external links are to sites which are either not working, primary sources, or of dubious nature. Sussexonian (talk) 10:08, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: I absolutely fail to see why external links to primary sources are a problem. External links are not references and hence have different criteria for inclusion than citations. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 02:56, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Strong keep He had prominent works and his case attracted considerable mainstream media interest. Behemoth (talk) 14:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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