Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grilled Charlie


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is clear that this is not a valid topic for a stand-alone article, so the question remained whether to delete it outright or to merge/redirect as Jclemens suggested. However, there was no consensus to do so at this time. As usual, this result does not prevent any editor from adding a mention to a suitable article and then recreating this page as a redirect to said article. Regards  So Why  07:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Grilled Charlie

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I can not find any reliable sources that discuss this sandwich. There is no indication it is notable. It is not mentioned in the main article not at List of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episodes. I can not find a place to redirect this to either. ~ GB fan 23:34, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 00:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 00:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 00:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Considering. puts it in with several obviously notable food related, comedy-originated fictional elements e.g. the Soup Nazi.  mentions it in passing.  Notability is equivocal, although there are certainly plenty of trivial references to it.  It would be reasonable to merge somewhere, maybe to the main "It's Always Sunny..." article, as there seem to be other foods that might make a section, or even a spinout article. Jclemens (talk) 01:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete/soft delete. Fails GNG. At best soft delete through redirect to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia per Jclemens above. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:32, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect Merge to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia as that appears to be an appropriate target for this. I am not certain about the value of a merge, but I would not be opposed to that either if the consensus points in that direction. Aoba47 (talk) 14:36, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If we redirect this without merging any content then people will end up at an article that does not discuss Grilled Charlie or even mention it. It would be better to be a red link than to go somewhere without any information.  ~ GB fan 14:40, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I see your point, and I partially agree with you. Grilled Charlie probably should be mentioned in a short sentence in the article for the reasons you mention. However, I do not believe it should be shown as a red link as that would encourage someone to remake the article, since if this AfD reaches a consensus to merge, then the article would not have passed the notability standards and should not be recreated (unless for some reason, this subject receives more attention in the future). While reading WP:RED, red links are defined as "useful in editing articles to create a red link to indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable" and I am not certain if the red link would be appropriate in this context. Otherwise, I agree with you, and I have struck out my redirect vote to just have merge. Thank you again for your response, and I apologize for my super lengthy response lol. Aoba47 (talk) 14:49, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 03:22, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete this is in-universe nonsense. Power~enwiki (talk) 03:39, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with Power~enwiki that this is in-universe nonsense, but more important is that it has no coverage, failing WP:GNG. No redirect is indicated, for one because it is an orphan article, and two because its role in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is miniscule, not even worth mentioning. --Bejnar (talk) 02:52, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.