Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grindor


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 02:31, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Grindor

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Non-notable fictional character sourced only to primary sources and thus fails WP:GNG. A merge to a minor characters list is usually appropriate here but none appears to exist. Black Kite (t) (c) 23:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC) Black Kite (t) (c) 23:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Major character in a recent notable film. Mathewignash (talk) 00:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, nothing of use in the article, no reliable sources cited. J Milburn (talk) 09:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Gamespot, IGN, published writer Ben Yee's review? various PROFESSIONAL web sites. "no reliable sources?" Mathewignash (talk) 18:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Another source added - Transformers Animated: The Allspark Almanac by Jim Sorenson & Bill Forester page 61 ha a paragraph on Grindor. Mathewignash (talk) 02:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Split the article based along the different series, merge into their respective series character lists, and convert to a disambiguation page. —Farix (t &#124; c) 22:28, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * When dealing with non-notable character articles, it is always preferable to look for a list or to create one to merge the article into, or merge/redirect them to the main article instead of outright deletion. Only in cases where the character is completely incidental should it be deleted. Also, how the page is currently organizes shows the folly of trying to cover more than one character from different series that happen to share the same name. —Farix (t &#124; c) 17:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Established more notability - I just added a third party book source talking about Grindor. That should help establish notability. Mathewignash (talk) 00:39, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Ignash, DK's The Ultimate Guide is so not a "third party" source, being a Hasbro-affiliated publication, written by Simon Furman. Plus, the book had spelling mistakes. NotARealWord (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - No real-world notability asserted for a fictional character. Tarc (talk) 02:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete no reliable, independent sources that establish independent notability for this thing in the realityverse. This content is wonderfully suited to wikia or the Transformers wiki. They'd love this stuff.Bali ultimate (talk) 12:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Bali ultimate. Secret account 15:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete no material verifiable enough to merge. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  19:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete- Hopeless fancruft that does not even attempt to establish real world notability. Reyk  YO!  02:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - there are some references from an official guide that they use to make more money for the franchise, but this isn't independent enough to be able to WP:verify notability. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:18, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete-poorly source no notabillity. Dwanyewest (talk) 14:32, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm not sure that I can add anything that hasn't been said already by those above. But to reiterate: no reliable, independent aources, and it fails GNG and general notability guidelines. Skinny87 (talk) 09:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.