Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Growshop


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Smart shop. Black Kite 22:31, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Growshop

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Growshop is a brand name and a Dutch term; there is no evidence of notability for the term in English common use apart from as a brand name and so this article fails wp:MADEUP. There are many articles in Google News using the word "Grow Shop" but this is invariably for "Grow Shop Limited", a company name or articles in Dutch rather than English (example search for most recent articles ). Ash (talk) 07:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to Smart shop, but the article requires cleanup for sure. This is the English language wikipedia, not the Wikipedia about English subjects. Sources in other languages and subjects from other language regions are perfectly acceptable. In addition, there definately are reliable english sources that use the word:
 * The Guardian, Monday 17 March 2003
 * The Weekly Standard, 10/22/2007, Volume 013, Issue 06
 * --Reinoutr (talk) 10:51, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. The article says "A grow shop or growshop, it is an indoor store where a variety of crops and plants are cultivated". Considerable time spent searching on the internet suggests that in fact the substantial majority of uses of the expression "growshop" refer to either:
 * 1) Shops selling hydroponic equipment and supplies, and not cultivating plants on the premises, or
 * 2) Shops providing products relating to cannabis.
 * Of the two citations given above by Reinoutr, the first one mentions the word growshop once, as a source of cannabis seed, not stating that a variety of (or indeed any) plants are cultivated there; the second citation refers to "grow" shops (with quotes) in reference to a law passed by the city of Rotterdam with a view to closing down premises selling illegal drugs. By no stretch of the imagination could this be regarded as substantial coverage, and it is also not at all clear that either of these citations refers to the meaning given in the defintion in the article.
 * While the meaning given in the article may exist, I can find no evidence at all that it is common, or that there is any substantial coverage of the meaning in reliable sources. Even if such coverage could be found, it would not be helpful to have an article which gives the impression that that is the main meaning of the word, since it clearly isn't. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The meaning as currently portrayed in the article, is indeed not fully accurate. That argues for correction and cleanup, however, not deletion. More substantial coverage and use of the word (albeit in dutch news reports) can be found here:
 * Volkskrant, 03 december 2007
 * Het Parool, 12-06-09
 * NRC Handelsblad, 18 oktober 2008
 * The articles mentioned earlier were just to indicate that the word is actually used by english newspapers as well. --Reinoutr (talk) 12:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 20:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.