Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grue (Freedom City)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 23:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Grue (Freedom City)

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This article has no sources to demonstrate notability of the particular fictional extraterrestrial race. It seems to be loaded with original research in the comparisons that it draws to other fictional creations, not backed by any reliable references. A brief summary of this material already exists at a merge target of Freedom City. My attempt at redirecting this article to that target was reverted, hence the reason it is here at AfD. --Craw-daddy &#124; T &#124; 19:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for similar reasons, i.e. there's nothing that demonstrates notability, and many seem to be the subject of original research in the comparisons to other fictional creations. Several of these have been redirected to the same target Freedom City but have been reverted. As above, please note that there are brief summaries of many of these already in that target page, hence I think there is nothing that need be merged there.


 * AEGIS (Freedom City)
 * Atom Family
 * Centurion (Freedom City)
 * The Collective (Freedom City)
 * Crime League (Freedom City)
 * Curator (Freedom City)
 * Factor Four
 * Farside City
 * Fear-Master
 * Freedom League (Freedom City)
 * Meta-Grue
 * Next Gen (Freedom City)
 * Omega (Freedom City)
 * Doc Otaku
 * Psions (Freedom City)
 * Star-Khan
 * Talos (Freedom City)
 * Ultima (Freedom City)
 * White Lion (Freedom City)


 * Delete, or Merge to either Freedom City or better, Mutants and Masterminds. No notability outside that universe.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions.   —--Craw-daddy &#124; T &#124; 19:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions.   —--Craw-daddy &#124; T &#124; 19:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect as per Schmidt. BOZ (talk) 19:47, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all and replace with redirects to Mutants and Masterminds to discourage recreation. If there's any content that can be merged into M&M, by all means do so. Percy Snoodle (talk) 22:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge without removing content. Perhaps that;s why bare redirects were reverted. That should have been discussed elsewhere, but since you've brought it here, I note what has been said in various places against trying BOLD as a multiple redirect prior to discussions. It might be more strategic to try to get agreement first, and there's more likely to me agreement if content is preserved.   See WP:Dispute Resolution for some suggestions. DGG (talk) 04:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, so we move all of the original research and editorial speculation into another article? Okay... no wait, most of it's already there as I pointed out above.  Many of the "[this character] is analogous to [that character] in [well-known comic book X]" is already present in the Freedom City article.  I don't believe there's any particularly relevant content to merge that isn't already there.  --Craw-daddy &#124; T &#124; 15:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete all and discourage recreation. Magioladitis (talk) 10:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep all due to their notability and discourage renomination. Redirects should be discussed on talk pages, not in AfDs.  Maybe if your attempt at redirecting was reverted it a show that the community wants it kept and not redirected.  Now obviously you were okay with a redirect.  Brining it to AfD a DELETION discussion is NOT the way to go, because it isn’t what you’re really after.--63.3.1.1 (talk) 15:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect all I'm not finding any solid RS for any of this. Delete is a reasonable option, but I don't know that there is a lot more to merge. Hobit (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.