Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grupo Senda (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. A couple handwave keep comments, but the detailed, NCORP arguments are all on the delete side. Courcelles (talk) 15:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Grupo Senda
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Completely unsourced. UtherSRG (talk) 16:09, 6 June 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  02:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:24, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. UtherSRG (talk) 16:09, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Transportation.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:04, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: The nominator hasn't provided an evaluation of the coverage which was discussed in the 2021 AfD, though I would not regard issues around post-accident compensation as contributing to WP:NCORP. There is some more recent coverage of financial restructuring (Telediario, 10 October 2022), a situation which remained unmentioned in the article text. AllyD (talk) 19:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It is also worth noting that there have been 6 deleted article instances on es.wiki, culminating in page protection . AllyD (talk) 05:48, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, per my comment in the previous AfD. Garuda3 (talk) 11:47, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As I said above, I am unconvinced by this brief nomination rationale, and would like to have seen it expanded in discussion here. However, assessing the article topic against the WP:NCORP criteria: the 1994 item announcing a partnership between Greyhound and Grupa Senda seems to me to be a standard notice as per WP:CORPDEPTH, the 2022 coverage of financial restructuring seems to fall under the same category, and I don't think delays in post-crash compensation claims indicate more than "purely local events, incidents, controversies ". AllyD (talk) 14:49, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: One more try... Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:42, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have evaluated the following sources vacuumed up from the last AFD, this AFD, and the article:, and I think only passes GNG/NCORP (assuming that page 5C has another paragraph talking about Grupo Senda). Due to insufficient WP:SIGCOV, I believe this article does not pass WP:GNG/WP:NCORP. List of companies of Mexico is a possible redirect target, but seems like a stretch, since that article only seems to contain major, notable companies that have articles. – Novem Linguae  (talk) 06:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per AllyD and Novem Linguae. Seems a pity not to be a able to cover what seems to be a fairly significant bus operator, but there aren't adequate sources to support an article, and there's no suitable existing target for a redirect. To the extent this might arguably be a borderline case, the editorial judgment of ES is worth taking into account as well. -- Visviva (talk) 01:34, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Easily a sufficiently notable company with sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:16, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep References mainly exist in the Spanish language. Some analysts such as EMIS and HR Ratings have produced reports on the company.  HighKing++ 13:15, 29 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.