Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guinea-Bissau–North Korea relations


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  07:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Guinea-Bissau–North Korea relations

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fails WP:GNG. there is no evidence of significant ongoing relationship between these 2 countries. There was only one leader visit and that was in 1977. Article makes the grand claim that north Korea "provided significant military, political and diplomatic aid to the African Party for the Independence of Guinea and Cape Verde". My own searches found zero evidence of this. With search results coming back to this WP page. LibStar (talk) 10:47, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. North America1000 13:10, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * information about that significant support during the Cold War checks out and can be found exactly where the article says: . – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:27, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Undecided Delete I dunno. There's some content in sources, but it usually lumps North Korea with other communist countries (including in the Historical Dictionary linked above). The result is that we know North Korea had an Africa policy that impacted Guinea-Bissau (but more so Mozambique and others) and we know that Guinea-Bissau got aid from the various communist countries (including North Korea, but not disaggregated to any substantive extent). But: in terms of direct Guinea-Bissau to North Korea relations unique to those two countries: the content is severely lacking. My rule of thumb on applying GNG is: If a wikipedia stub/start is the best thing written on a topic, then it probably should be deleted. The content unique to the relations between these two countries does not appear to pass GNG. (Usual disclaimer: came from Africa alerts, unaffiliated editor). (EDIT: Went over it all today and do not find enough specific North Korea-Guinea-Bissau coverage to pass GNG. So yeah.) AbstractIllusions (talk) 05:40, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to Foreign relations of Guinea-Bissau and Foreign relations of North Korea – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * merging can only have a 1 destination page LibStar (talk) 13:36, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Then merge to either and copy to the other. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:50, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:53, 6 August 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Soft Keep I feel conflicted on this. Admittedly, most of the sources tend to discuss North Korea−Guinea-Bissau relations within the context of Cold War geopolitics. That said, although the relationship doesn't appear to have been of compelling importance in the broad sweep of history, in the context of Guinea-Bissau, I think it might be worth noting. At the time of this posting, the article doesn't make the broad claim that North Korea was a significant player in Guinea-Bissau, so I don't think it's overstating things. It seems well-sourced and worth a mention, both within the context of North Korea's engagement with Africa, and with Guinea-Bissau's history in particular. Tigercompanion25 (talk) 04:13, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:19, 13 August 2016 (UTC)


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