Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gul Khan (cricketer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. North America1000 01:08, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Gul Khan (cricketer)

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Non-notable cricketer, coverage not enough to pass WP:GNG. Störm  (talk)  00:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - 15 years without any significant article edits, that must be a record for almost any Wikipedia article, let alone a cricket article. Worth noting that Khan is a former County Championship player rather than someone who turned up for the odd List A match - and has his own profile on CA, which I'm sure could be reasonably sourced from elsewhere if necessary. To be entirely honest, it's examples like this that make me wonder whether it would be more appropriate to get more eyes on an article before sending straight to AfD simply because the nominator hasn't heard of the subject, and whether it simply demonstrates that the nominator in question and other deletionists are unwilling to participate in a collaborative project. Bobo. 00:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "15 years without any significant article edits" means no one is interested in reading these bios where only we can find are database sources. Störm   (talk)  09:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * In this case, it also meant 15 years with unreferenced OR/synthesis problems. wjematherplease leave a message... 10:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I was just tickled, that was all. Just an observation. Once again, unwillingness to get more eyes on an article before sending an article to deletion seems peculiar to me. Bobo. 10:36, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * However, it should be noted that just because nobody is interested in an article for 15 years doesn't mean that alone is a requirement for it to be deleted. Before I expanded County Cricket Ground, Swindon yesterday, there had only been 6 edits in the last 10 years. StickyWicket (talk) 13:48, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:58, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 *  Weak keep Coverage online is limited, but the player had a significant county championship career playing 6 County Championship and 22 List-A matches. Will likely have been covered significantly offline in Wisden for example due to those appearances, and may receive some coverage in newspaper archives also. I believe it highly likely coverage will exist on him. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Just request users listed at WikiProject_Cricket/The_Library and they will confirm if there is anything significant about him in Wisden. We've created this, so we don't have to assume every time that there is coverage but is inaccessible. Störm   (talk)  10:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this information Storm, Johnlp has commented below and found coverage, so removed the weak bit as it seems there is coverage. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:00, 16 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. My stance is well known; 10+ appearances should be kept, as this is not an unreasonable amount to assume sources will exist. With 43 appearances this far exceeds that number. StickyWicket (talk) 13:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. This player made 43 first-class and List A appearances in all, including the 1996 University Match, and he has a first-class century to his name, albeit for Oxford University. He was a regular List A player for Derbyshire in the second half of the 1996 season and the first two-thirds of the 1997 season, with 22 appearances in total. This is a substantial cricket career at the highest domestic level and clearly notable. Johnlp (talk) 23:47, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as far as we know, fails WP:GNG, and nobody's presented sources otherwise so far, apart from assuming he's been in Wisden. This article is one sentence in a match report and clearly not SIGCOV, and he gets mentioned briefly again here, but I can't find any newspaper coverage from his Oxford days - where should we be looking? SportingFlyer  T · C  10:20, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. Wisden 1997 edition specifically mentions him in its review of the Oxford 1996 season. It also covers an innings of 147 by him in a List A match. Johnlp (talk) 10:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Withdraw - keep from me. Störm   (talk)  00:38, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think you can withdraw AfDs which contain more than one different "kind" of !vote. Bobo. 06:44, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * – Actually, nominators can withdraw at anytime for any reason, but the discussion cannot simply be closed per the nominator's withdrawal itself, as there is a delete !vote present. See WP:WITHDRAWN for more information. North America1000 17:59, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sort of trying to work out how one of those can cancel out the other, but okay. Bobo. 19:40, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. The Wisden coverage does not sound at all in-depth enough for GNG, and nothing else has appeared demonstrating SIGCOV. Notability on wikipedia is not achievement-based. JoelleJay (talk) 00:57, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kichu🐘 Need any help? 23:26, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above comments with multiple FC/LA matches under his belt.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - County Championship, that's just about crossing the threshold for notability. Evaline Nakano (talk) 22:18, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Centuries at FC and LA levels in 43 appearances. I don't see how his notability is in question. Sammyrice (talk) 23:28, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.