Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gulf War Syndrome: Killing Our Own


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The result was delete and redirect to Gary Null. Randykitty (talk) 18:21, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Gulf War Syndrome: Killing Our Own

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Another Null-film that fails WP:NFILM. Not one of the many citations on this article constitute significant coverage in an independent reliable source. Yes, one does find several instances where the film is being hosted on some sort of documentary screening portal, brief mentions that the film has been shown or awarded at a minor festival, production listings, passing mentions at Gulf War Syndrome-related sites, but not a single case of an independent, significant review or article or discussion in a non-affiliated book or journal, that I can see, and as required. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:41, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete and redirect to Gary Null. Gary may (or may not) be a notable, but this film fails WP:GNG, WP:NFILM and WP:NFRINGE. I did put a prod-template on this article, but it was removed by the original author with a somewhat unconventional explanation as to why... WegianWarrior (talk) 14:02, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply to WegianWarrior. Simple, the tag was unwarranted. Also on the suggestion of another member about something a little different, I have been having a look at your sometimes low-usage account, I've been measuring times of activity and it seems your usage increases when there are certain controversial articles that involve exposing GMO foods etc, or articles about activists challenging Big Pharma. It seems that you have been concentrating on certain articles to delete. Of course you're allowed to pick and choose. Just as long as that's all you're doing ....  ~wink~ Mr Bill Truth (talk) 08:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * In other words you practice the well known sport of jumping to conclusions about others.. or as we say in Norway; På seg selv kjenner man andre. WegianWarrior (talk) 19:19, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete and redirect to Gary Null. Same reasons as above (primarily WP:NFILM), but additionally WP:FRINGE due to content. I suspect that there will be several more of User:Mr Bill Truth's contributions finding their way to AfD in the near future if he continues this pattern of churning out WP:FRINGE articles that fail notability guidelines, although at some point it may be better to just bring him to somewhere like ANI due to his extended pattern of WP:SOAP edits. Garzfoth (talk) 14:15, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * On that note, someone, I think it may have been Mastcell himself, pointed to #14 in his WP:CGTW and even though I've been here a while this list was like a revelation, to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawn in Montreal (talk • contribs) 16:39, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I recently saw that over at WP:FTN (posted by User:Alexbrn). The list is pretty hilarious, I also liked the Optimist's Guide linked in there. WP:RANDY is pretty good too (as well as some of the articles under "See Also" on that page). We're probably getting a bit off-topic for an AfD nomination though. Garzfoth (talk) 18:40, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh that's where it was, yes. Well, I seriously think "truth" should be one of the username elements prohibited at WP:IU. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:07, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as insufficiently notable. Anything salvageable should be merged to Gary Null. Alexbrn (talk) 09:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, article is notable, also has a massive grass-roots following. Go and look at the Gulf War vets. This film has so far picked up at least 4 awards at at least 3 festivals Action on Film International Film Festival, USA Best Documentary Political - Twin Rivers Multimedia Film Festival 2013 3rd place World premier Documentary Film and Commercial Film Winner  WorldFest-Houston Platinum Remi Award  Mr Bill Truth (talk) 09:21, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Jytdog (talk) 11:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. The trivial nature of the awards claimed as justification for inclusion speaks volumes. As does the fact that their articles were themselves created by the same editor who wrote this article. Guy (Help!) 16:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:NFILM. One of the bricks in the WP:Walled garden promoting Null and his "work". ukexpat (talk) 13:19, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Even if some of the other films are notable,which is very dubious, this one certainly is not. Trying to write articles about all the works of a person, regardless of their importance, is usually a sign of promotionalism. (works of truly famous people are another matter, but for those merely notable, it shows the lack of perspective which is common to COI)  DGG ( talk ) 18:58, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per ukexpat and others above; looks like an agenda at work.  Mini  apolis  01:51, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:01, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per ukexpat and others above; no evidence of independent RSs.Pincrete (talk) 11:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.