Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guosa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. North America1000 15:09, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Guosa

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The cited sources are either inaccessible or self-published. Neither the notability of the subject nor the correctness of the information can be verified. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment: inaccessible sources are not a problem in principle, but some independent sources are certainly required. The 1992 article by Fakuade is independent (and seems rather critical of Igbinéwéká, or at least of Guosa). The Nigerian "National Institute for Cultural Orientation" piece and the Daily Trust articles are no longer accessible, so I can't judge those. There do seem to be more independent sources out there, criticizing or otherwise discussing the language. EG:
 * Iteogu, Odizuru, 2019. "The Role of Nigerian Translators in Promoting Nationhood and National Consciousness." KIU Journal of Social Sciences, 5. PDF
 * I can't access these in my local library, but maybe you can:
 * Attah, Mark. 1987 March. "The National Language Problem in Nigeria." Canadian Journal of African Studies.
 * Elugbe, Ben Ohi. 2009. "National language and national development." In L. Moshi and A. Ojó, Language Pedagogy and Language Use in Africa. ISBN 9781906704612
 * There is also at least passing mention here:
 * Akinnaso, F. Niyi. 1991. "Toward the development of a multilingual language policy in Nigeria." Applied Linguistics, 12: 29-61.
 * (from Akinnaso, p. 47: "It should be noted, however, that there are exceptions in each case. For example, there are northerners who would support English just as there are southerners who would support Hausa (Awonusi 1985; Newswatch, March 20, 1989, p. 15). Furthermore, there are exponents of pidgin English (see Goke-Pariola 1987), while there are yet others who would support an artificial language, such as Guosa (Igbineweka 1987).")
 * Cnilep (talk) 05:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:42, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. – Uanfala (talk) 13:42, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think we all agree that notability is not a temperorary thing. Therefore: if something was notable five or ten years ago, it still is. The same goes for newspaper articles as well: if an article is not accessible online anymore, that doesn't mean it has been unpublished. BTW, the article in the Daily Trust hasn't vanished at all, it's just that the link had to be fixed, see here. From what I can see (mind, I'm not an expert on Nigerian matters), the Daily Trust is a serious and reputable newspaper in Nigeria. Apart from the article mentioned in the references section, it published a few more articles and videos about Guosa, too: see this and this. I also found this article, in which a presidential candidate expresses his support for Guosa. With regard to Gbenga Fakuade's article: I don't have access to it either, but the journal Language Problems and Language Planning is a reputable source and I'm sure this particular issue or article can be purchased; at least we have proof that it exists and what it is about. Based on all this, I think we can conclude that in terms of notability, Guosa is in a position similar to (or even better than) languages like Afrihili, Toki Pona or Kotava. &mdash;IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu?  20:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:14, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per comments above. An interesting article too. HandsomeBoy (talk) 13:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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