Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gus Birney


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The result was delete. Consensus leans towards this being WP:TOOSOON. Her single major role doesn't push her into WP:NACTOR, and the coverage isn't at WP:GNG territory. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:52, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Gus Birney

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Doesn't meet WP:ENT or WP:GNG. Her parents won awards, but notability is not inherited. Probably just WP:TOOSOON, but at the moment doesn't meet the criteria. Boleyn (talk) 05:38, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep She has a starring role in The Mist (TV series) and is described as "starring" in the upcoming Best Day of My Life (film) with Sarah Jessica Parker, Jacqueline Bisset, and Renée Zellweger, which began filming in July. Thus she satisfies WP:ENT, "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". She also has the eponymous starring role in a completed independent film Darcy, but I'm sceptical if the film itself is notable enough. Edwardx (talk) 10:52, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete she has not yet had multiple significant roles in notable films.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete An alleged starring role in an unfinished film means she is not yet notable. WP:TOOSOON JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:27, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sources are mostly web-cruft. The Variety one might help, but name is only trivially mentioned in a long list of the cast. Keep !vote is couched in CRYSTAL. This is way TOOSOON. Agricola44 (talk) 15:26, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep She had a starring role in The Mist (TV series). She also appeared in an episode of Chicago Med and a starring role in the independent film Darcy. What more is needed? There are plenty of actors that have pages on Wikipedia with less credentials.Donaldd23 (talk) 22:13, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * WAX has no part here. This is a BLP, so it can't stay unless RS is added. I'm glad to change my position if such can be found. Testimony is not enough. Agricola44 (talk) 22:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I couldn't really find anything...guess you couldn't either. Agricola44 (talk) 22:38, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not up on all the Wikipedia acronyms, can you translate for a lay person? What does "WAX has no part here" mean?  I am assuming BLP is "Biography of a Living Person", but I also have not idea what "...unless RS is added." Thanks in advance for clarifying for me.  Donaldd23 (talk) 23:09, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Apologies, this piece explains WAX and "RS" means realiable sources. RS is the crux here. Because this is a living person, the sourcing requirements are very strict. Is there coverage in a mainstream news source (e.g. New York Times), in books from reputable publishers, or the like that discuss the subject specifically and in detail? That's the kind of thing that is needed here. I could not readily find anything like that. What is considered unreliable are web-cruft (Twitter/FaceBook/YouTube etc), IMDB, pamphlets, etc. Hope that's helpful...and I'm glad to change my position if you do find some reliable sources. Best, Agricola44 (talk) 05:10, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation! Would citing this article in the page meet the criteria you seek? http://www.interviewmagazine.com/film/gus-birney/ Donaldd23 (talk) 22:39, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment Regarding WP:ENT, "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions", I just added that she was Marisa Tomei's daughter in a Williamstown Theater Festival production of The Rose Tattoo, and gets mentioned in the NYT review. Edwardx (talk) 10:21, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. You've mostly added a lot more web cruft. The NYT you refer to talks about Tomei. Birney is is mentioned incidentally, Rosa, played a little too shrilly by Ms. Birney, has recently met a young sailor at a school dance..., i.e. what we call a "trivial mention". Is there anything substantive (not web cruft) that talks about Birney specifically? Agricola44 (talk) 14:53, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


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