Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gustav Hitler


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Hitler family. Lankiveil (speak to me) 00:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Gustav Hitler

 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)
 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)
 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)
 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)

Group nomination. Subjects are four siblings of Adolf Hitler, all of whom died of natural causes before age six. Only Edmund was alive in Adolf Hitler's lifetime. No notability other than famous relative. Current articles are unreferenced stubs that contain pretty much all useful encyclopedic information on the subjects. Rklear (talk) 05:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Would it be worth listing or integrating a brief version of this information into the Adolf Hitler article, with these articles redirected to the relevant section the information was contained in? The most likely location would be somewhere in the Adolf Hitler section. It could read something along the lines of "Adolf was one of Alois and Klara's six children. Only Adolf and his sister Paula reached adulthood: Gustav, born in 1885, and Ida, born in 1886, both died of diphtheria in December 1886; Otto was born and died in 1887; and Edmund, who was born in 1894 and died from measels in 1900.", but would likely need to be tweaked to best fit in the article. Three of the articles list the same text as "literature" (I assume "reference") - "Marc Vermeeren. "De jeugd van Adolf Hitler 1889-1907 en zijn familie en voorouders". Soesterberg, 2007, 420 blz. Uitgeverij Aspekt. ISBN = 90-5911-606-2. " - I assume this could be used to source such an addition to the main Adolf Hitler article. However, in the articles' current incarnations, the only content is that summarised above: the articles repeat and summarise each other. I do not believe that these for children pass the notability inclusion guideline, as the only coverage they appear to have received is what is presented here, and this coverage only exists because they share the same parents as Adolf Hitler. -- saberwyn 06:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I would equally support a similar merge and redirection with the article Hitler family as target, per below. -- saberwyn 06:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The information has a place on Wikipedia, but it's doubtful that we will ever be able to expand the individual articles beyond stub level. I suggest grouping them together in a single article. How about Siblings of Adolf Hitler--the individual articles of the more notable siblings could be linked there, together with the information on the ones who died young. Everyking (talk) 08:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge with Hitler family unless expanded. I agree with the sentiments above, but I cannot see any real reason to establish an entirely new article just for the siblings. Sjakkalle (Check!)  11:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the family article. In that case, yes, I agree that merging with the list and giving each family member in the list one or two paragraph summaries&mdash;with links to the more notable family members&mdash;is reasonable. Everyking (talk) 01:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge with Hitler family, which should be rewritten to have some info on everyone and be more than just a list of links.--Boffob (talk) 13:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge into Hitler family because they are not notable enough for their own articles.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 00:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge--though I do not really see what harm they do as separate. Normally i would strongly argue that siblings of such figures are notable due to their influence on the main individual, but for those who die in infancy at a time when the main person is either unborn or still an infant,, it's harder to make such an argument. any effect would be indirect, and would be much the same for each of them. There are probably psychological speculations, but they can be discussed together   DGG (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.