Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guy Anthony De Marco


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The result was   delete. —  Aitias  // discussion 03:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Guy Anthony De Marco

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Appears to be a non-notable author but the tag I placed has been removed by the article's creator. Seems like self-promotion or a conflict of interest but I'm prepared to be convinced that it's not just a self-published author looking for publicity Deb (talk) 12:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm a horror fan, and I was going to add in some of the newer horror writers like De Marco and JG Faherty, who has stories up for Stoker nominations. De Marco is a member of the Horror Writers Association, which means he has met their professional standards. I made sure to add in many references, including links to where he still has some of his stories in pro-pay markets. He's also a member of ASCAP, plus he's done work for the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America. He has membership in the top US Horror professional organization, the top US Music professional organization, and has worked with the top US SciFi organization. I thought your original tag was for not enough references, so I added in more (just check the history). Compare my post to Laird Barron, which is a short writeup with no references. I was also going to add in more information (and references) to Lisa Morton, and to add in information to newer horror writers like Faherty. I would appreciate a reply. AAraxin User talk:AAraxin —Preceding undated comment was added at 14:44, 22 December 2008 (UTC).


 * Comment This deserves further investigation. While there are several references in there that are not independent, writer's organizations like SFWA and Horror Writers Association have admission guidelines that could well go in tandem with our own notability guidelines. I think the SFWA required you to have published two books with a reliable publisher (but don't pin me on that). I think this is possibly salvagable. - Mgm|(talk) 17:33, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * but I do not see that he has published 2 books--the first anthology listed is a place where one story of his appeared,& I can find no information even in amazon about the other. DGG (talk) 06:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've done a further investigation: Apparently, the HWA isn't as strict as some other writer groups. See They would pretty much allow anyone with a minimal publication credit to join. - Mgm|(talk) 09:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * SFWA Requirements: One Paid Sale of prose fiction to a Qualifying Professional Market, paid at the rate of 5c/word or higher.
 * HWA Requirements: Same as the SFWA, except they accept any pro-rate market, not just the specific markets on a list.
 * DeMarco has at least four qualified professional sales, just going by the current list (2x Necrotic Tissue, 2x Sepentarius (1 listed), Regional Ghost Stories). I know his book is out of print, it was a limited signed edition of 2000 copies, and his blog said he doesn't count that as a pro sale. I'm spending more time defending an artical than it took to write it. AAraxin User talk:AAraxin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.47.54.5 (talk) 21:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Does not meet notability guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Userfy as per Userfication AAraxin is a new editor, who seems to truly want to contribute meaningful information to wikipedia. Lets give him a chance, as the guideline Please do not bite the newcomers admonishes, travb (talk) 21:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It might have helped if you hadn't sent this new user that scary message saying "Your hard work is about to be deleted from Wikipedia". You didn't even give him a welcome first.  As it happens, you seem to have scared him off as he hasn't made any contributions since. Deb (talk) 18:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete it will be very rare for any author to obtain notability through 4 published short stories, unless it is possible to show significant critical attention. This isn't like the more rigourous activities of American Football, where any professional appearance counts. DGG (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Please delete my entry. I understand the rules say I shouldn't blank the page, so will one of you please delete both my page and my account. Thank you. AAraxin (talk) 23:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, so it can be established and rewritten for notability. -- MISTER ALCOHOL  TC 05:30, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI: Since you seem to be unaware of this fact; we do not keep article of non-notable people just in case they somehow happen to become notable at a later date. Trusilver  02:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per failure of WP:BIO.


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