Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gwendolyn Masin


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The result was keep. At this point there is rough consensus towards keeping the article at this time. The SandDoctor Talk 00:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Gwendolyn Masin

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Gwendolyn Masin fails WP:BLP; it's partially not neutral and mostly based upon the knowledge of someone close to the subject. Though, she does seem to have some notability within her field. The article is also filled with external links within sentences, which contradicts WP:EXT. Mikalagrand (talk) 13:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep Sufficiently notable. AfD is not a place to force improvement. The Banner  talk 13:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - She has some notice in the classical music community, which can support a basic stub article here. However, the article absolutely needs to be cut down to notable and verifiable facts, while removing obvious CV-like minutiae. That is a cleanup job and not a reason to delete. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:28, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Leaning slightly towards keep but only if the uncited material is sourced or removed along with the minutiae. I already took out most of the external hotlinks but did not bother to look for, or have the time to find, sources. ww2censor (talk) 14:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Disagree about the subject’s notability in classical music. A few articles and a load of unsourced assertions do not make for “notability.” Most musicians with comparable CVs do not meet this threshold; unsure why this person is an exception. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - I am rather partial because I personally know Gwendolyn and I am a volunteer at her festival in Switzerland. I did some clean-up and added additional sources and I will keep doing that. Thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alisa34 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Cannot count the above vote per WP:ILIKEIT and personal connection. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. Passes the WP:GNG. No case was made for deletion, then why was this AFDd? I have cleaned the article of some lingering puff. It is still too detailed, as a template clearly states. gidonb (talk) 02:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Seems to have some coverage from multiple sources to pass WP:GNG, and WP:DINC. -Kj cheetham (talk) 20:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep (on the weak side) -- solo performances with significant symphonies and sufficient reviews for concerts. Weaker on the discography side.  I think my assessment is actually similar to CurryTime7-24's but I think that most musicians with comparable careers do tend to meet the classical music bio threshold. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 00:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


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