Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gynemimetophilia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Attraction to transgender people. (non-admin closure) John F. Lewis (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Gynemimetophilia

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POV fork of Attraction to transgender people. Duplicates material there. Same editor created a duplicate copy/paste fork at Gynandromorphophilia (also considered for deletion). Fork is created by a single-purpose account who is an activist minority in the mental health field known for attempting to create and promote an ever-growing list of "paraphilias." See work by Karen Franklin, Vernon Rosario and others for details on this controversy. Recommend merge and redirect to reinstate redirect. Jokestress (talk) 20:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Correct medical term for "attraction to M2F cross-dressers" — who are not transgender, rather impersonators. Thus not a fork. Carrite (talk) 22:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Your vote is based on a misunderstanding. Crossdresser is a transgender identity. See Transgender. Jokestress (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Gynemimetophilia is not about the cross-dressers, it is about those attracted to cross-dressers. Carrite (talk) 23:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I was not clear enough. Gynemimetophilia is a term for those attracted to cross-dressers. Cross-dressers fall under the umbrella term transgender (your mistake I was pointing out). Therefore gynemimetophilia is a term for those attracted to transgender people. We don't need separate articles for attraction to male cross-dressers, attraction to female cross-dressers, attraction to drag queens, attraction to drag kings, attraction to genderqueer people, attraction to "shemales", men with a sexual interest in trans women, etc. They are all synonyms or related terms and can be covered in attraction to transgender people. Jokestress (talk) 21:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * • Gene93k (talk) 00:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Jokestress' comment is in error.  What counts is what the RS's say, and the RS's for gynemimetophilia say (rightly or wrongly) that the term refers sexual interest in cross-dressers.— James Cantor (talk) 15:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If the reliable source is shown to be incorrect, and we know this, then we don't present factually incorrect information as true. A lack of reliable sources speaks to the notability of this term.


 * Delete and redirect as above Sorry I'm not persuaded that this is any more than another word being created/used when none is needed. Blanchard is known to have, shall we say, less than mainstream ideas about gender and sexuality issues and this seems like a way of bolstering their read on a subject in the world's biggest encyclopedia. Insomesia (talk) 12:15, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Insomnia's anti-Blanchard POV is both irrelevant and mistaken.  This term has nothing to do with Blanchard...Indeed, Blanchard coined a different term (gynandromorphophilia) to clarify what he saw as short-comings of this term (which was coined by John Money).— James Cantor (talk) 15:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not anti-Blanchard, anti-WP:PROMOTIONAL. Insomesia (talk) 20:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. So, who is it exactly that is getting promoted?  (And if it's not clear who's getting promoted, it's hard to argue that anyone is getting promoted...)  And if it's not anti-Blanchard, why'd you bring him up and decry him? — James Cantor (talk) 23:02, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There's only a few sentences to choose from, I'll allow others to decide for themselves if Blanchard is served by this or not. Insomesia (talk) 23:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Nowhere does an article in Wikipedia attribute the term "gynemimetophilia" to Blanchard. Attraction to transgender people attributes "gynemimetophilia" to John Money, gynemimetophilia attributes "gynandromorphophila" to Ray Blanchard (in a presumably off-topic reference) while not attributing the origins of "gynemimetophilia" at all. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 13:55, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The present second sentence states "Sexologist Ray Blanchard proposed the term gynandromorphophilia (love of male/female form) to refer to the sexual preference of men for women who have a penis, or other mixtures of male and female characteristics." Insomesia (talk) 21:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 20:34, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  TheSpecialUser TSU 01:35, 21 August 2012 (UTC)




 * Redirect per nom. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 00:49, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to attraction to transgender people - There is not enought source material from which to maintain a WP:GNG stand alone article and attraction to transgender people seems sufficient to cover the topic. The one article I found, Annals of the American Psychotherapy Association September 22, 2009, lists gynemimetophilia as a paraphilia along with a bunch of other sexual disorders and describes it as "Gynemimetophilia: Male to female transsexual," so attraction to transgender people would seem a good target for the redirect. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
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