Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gypsy Girl (TV series) (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Eddie891 Talk Work 18:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Gypsy Girl (TV series)
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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG. Tagged for notability Donald D23   talk to me  14:20, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and United Kingdom.  Donald D23   talk to me  14:20, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV. As I stated in the first AFD, extensive searches in newspapers.com, JSTOR, EBSCOE, google books, my university library, and in several standard UK TV/media encyclopedias published after this series aired showed no significant coverage of this show. I do not believe that sources on this particular show exist given an exhaustive effort to locate them. The first AFD was closed largely due to a bad WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument which is listed at . Respectfully, I request that this time around that anyone voting keep actually provide evidence of significant coverage, because frankly I don't think it exists on or off-line after thoroughly looking. We need to see the sources, not just speculate that there are sources. Likewise, admins please don't close this as keep or no consensus if GNG isn't demonstrated with evidence. Arguments based on speculation aren't valid. Enforce our policies please. 4meter4 (talk) 15:34, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep I question if things have changed since the last deletion discussion. PatGallacher (talk) 23:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, because I'm wondering the same thing as PatGallacher above. (Reminder: "Television series, game shows, and talk shows broadcast nationally by a major network or produced by a major studio are usually kept.") But, as another of the users in the last discussion suggested, I suppose that redirecting to Elizabeth Arnold (children's writer), where this series is mentioned, can be an alternative. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  23:23, 17 September 2023 (UTC) (Edited: sources found by Cunard are convincing. Thank you)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "GIPSIES, tramps and thieves... plus some of Britain's best-known actors, may well help 15-year-old Gemma Gregory to achieve her dream of making it in Hollywood. The young heroine of new Children's ITV series Gypsy Girl stars as a young Romany with special powers, which runs all next week. Gary Webster, Leslie Grantham and Eleanor Bron are among the co-stars who will feature with Gregory. ... The contemporary drama features Gregory as Freya, who has inherited the powers of a Chime Child from her grandmother (Bron). Destined to help people who are hurt or in trouble, Freya sets out in her magical caravan and is accompanied by her cool, enigmatic brother Tashar (Thomas Jamerson). Soon the pair have numerous adventures, making a host of friends along the way."  The article notes: "Grantham, aged 53, will appear as a sinister second-hand car salesman in Gypsy Girl, a seven-part ITV series based on a trilogy of novels by Elizabeth Arnold. The actor will be joined by 14-year-old rising star Gemma Gregory, who appeared in BBC1's Great Expectations. She takes the title role of young Romany girl Freya."  The book notes: "The Gypsy Girl, shown in 2001, was an excellent seven-episode series that harked back to seemingly lost values. Though it was roundly marketed as a British Sabrina, and probably only commissioned in the hope that it would be, the reality was that the stories it told were rather more thoughtful. The broadcast of The Gypsy Girl marked another shift in children's programming when it became the first drama to air on consecutive days, Mondays to Fridays, and this 'stripped' schedule experiment is up for review at the beginning of 2002."  The article provides two sentences of coverage about the subject. notes: "Two new daily shows for half-term. Gyspy Girl, adapted from Elizabeth Arnold's trilogy, stars Eleanor Bron as Romany Gran, whose remarkable powers have passed straight to her grand-daughter Freya (Gemma Gregory), who today encounters suburban fury"  The book provides one sentence of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "Children's television drama has also used the romantic, exotic, untrustworthy images, as in Gypsy Girl (ITV, February 2001)." </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Gypsy Girl to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 01:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn per sources identified by Cunard Donald D23   talk to me  11:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Keep, looks like it has enough major references to pass ButtonPocketSquare899 (talk) 08:33, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


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