Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hélène Bergès


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The result was keep. Strong consensus that the subject meets WP:NPROF. Nominator has also voted keep and there are no !votes but keep. (non-admin closure) AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:01, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Hélène Bergès

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BLP with no references Rathfelder (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep but clean up . Draftify if no cleanup done by the end of the AFD. The subject has a strong case for WP:PROF through many heavily-cited publications although there are also many coauthors, and legion of honor etc and Vermeil Medal (misspelled Vermal somehow) also likely pass #C2. But in its nominated unsourced state it is not fit for article space. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Now much better mostly thanks to User:Silver seren. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:55, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The subject may well be notable, but being a chevalier (the lowest level, equivalent to an MBE) in the Légion d'honneur does not contribute to it. This is a low-level honour, at least two levels below what would be an indication of notability. My father was an MBE, and he would be turning in his grave at the suggestion that that level of honour should lead to an encyclopedia entry. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think for academics the more usual knighthood is the Order of Academic Palms? So the Légion d'honneur may be a step above that. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When it comes to such things the order is pretty irrelevant - it's the rank within the order that counts. Bergès is at the lowest rank in the order, along with many dozens of thousands of other people. That's nothing to be sneezed at, but is not in itself anything that grants notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:02, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as passes WP:NPROF. More work is needed as David Eppstein said, but WP:DINC. -Kj cheetham (talk) 18:27, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Pass of WP:Prof. The BLP seems a bit bloated now. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:47, 8 January 2022 (UTC).
 * KeepMuch improved. Rathfelder (talk) 14:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)


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