Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hörður Björgvin Magnússon (3rd nomination)


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Hörður Björgvin Magnússon
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There is insufficient coverage for this person to pass WP:GNG. He has not played in a fully professional league, or internationally at the senior level, meaning he fails WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - note that this is actually the fourth nomination for this article. The third is under Hörður Magnússon. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: added to box. MrKIA11 (talk) 23:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt - remains non-notable after four AfDs! GiantSnowman 00:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Procedural Delete and Salt - This has been voted Delete three times already. With all due respect, at some point, enough is enough. Carrite (talk) 01:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment the anglicized version of the name should also be salted then. 64.229.100.153 (talk) 05:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - some of the facts on this article are misleading. He does not have Juve's no.20 shirt (that belongs to Luca Toni), nor does he play for their senior team (only their youth team). There seems to be a buzz about what a young talent he is but he has yet to achieve notability. This article can be recreated if and when he makes his début at a fully professional level, but until then this article should be deleted and salted as suggested above. &mdash;BETTIA&mdash; talk 11:56, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt - agreed, the career trajectory looks really empty. Doesn't meet WP:NSPORT --Whiteguru (talk) 12:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. Still fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. Argyle 4 Life  talk  12:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt - Fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. -- Joaquin008  ( talk ) 07:40, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or Incubate or Userfy (1) This is a professional soccer player. (2) He has been playing internationally for at least two years. (3) He is listed with a professional soccer team among players valued at as high as 30 million pounds ref.  He is himself listed as having a value of 320 thousand pounds.  He has already attracted a lot of attention from the public as shown by the references in the article.  Unscintillating (talk) 14:12, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - if he's only valued at £320k, I seriously can't see him playing for Juventus any time soon. Many semi-professional players in the fifth tier of English football are valued at more than that...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I doubt an online football management game counts as a reliable source! &mdash;BETTIA&mdash; talk 08:57, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nomination does not pass WP:BIO requirements, sadly SALT should be applied too unless we plan to discuss this for indefinite time. Yamaguchi先生 14:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Does anyone wonder why different editors keep re-creating this article?  Would it be that they are looking for non-notable topics?  Or would it be because this topic is missing from the encyclopedia?


 * It is not true that this article must wait for Magnusson's first game with Juventus. WP:NSPORT is a guideline, a guideline shows a pattern, not fixed pathways.  I see erroneous conclusions on this point in previous AfDs, so the previous AfDs are flawed criteria also.


 * Fram is one of the top four teams in Iceland, the better question is, is six games with Fram along with the other WP:GNG sources available and, according to WP:N, "likely to be available", equal in the notability given one game with Juventus.


 * There is not a position here that has verifiable research, except for the comment about jersey #20, about which I changed the article. Un-researched !votes do not prove non-notability, and the "salt" comments here are weaker than the !votes themselves.


 * It took just a little research for me to find an article showing that this player was already known internationally at age 15. Checking the Fram website shows that he was the captain of the Under-17 team.  By age 18, he is the first Icelandic player in Juve's 100-year history.  None of these points have been mentioned by the delete !votes.  How can it be a reasonable statement to call these points an "empty career trajectory"?


 * I was not able to find any online newspaper archives in Milan, and I feel confident that none of the !votes here have worked the Milan newspapers, so it is likely that more material exists in a Milan library. I found 67 hits in an Iceland newspaper, here.  Unscintillating (talk) 10:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The general consensus is that youth team activities are not notable enough for Wikipedia. &mdash;BETTIA&mdash; talk 10:49, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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