Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H.A.T.E.U (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

H.A.T.E.U (song)

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It's a bit premature to have a page on this song (supposed third single) when the second single was just released and there has yet to be any substantial confirmation of this as the third single. It has not charted, nor has it received significant third-party coverage from reliable sources, so it fails WP:NSONGS. Note: I have previously redirected this back to the album page, but it was reverted. (Also, if this survives AfD, the correct title is "H.A.T.E.U." and it should be moved there, because there is no need to predisambiguate.) SKS (talk) 05:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: I do realise that Carey herself has verbally announced this as the third single; however, that's not enough. For example, she said for quite a while that "Say Somethin'" would be the first single released from The Emancipation of Mimi, but it obviously wasn't, so yeah....
 * Delete: Per WP:CRYSTAL. Joe Chill (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- Joe Chill (talk) 13:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Not enough information YET Jayy008 (talk) 15:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: This has been confirmed as the third single, therefore I'm happy to approve it. Plus deleting it would waste everyone's time, if it only has to be started again once the pedants are satisfied with their 1000 sources of confirmation. It just seems like people raise these AfDs to score points with administrators. (Paul237 (talk) 18:37, 10 October 2009 (UTC))
 * Comment: This made me laugh. Thanks! :) 173.66.252.156 (talk) 15:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete although it is confirmed as the next single, it hasn't charted as of yet, nor has it been covered by third-party sources. The song fails WP:NSONGS for these reasons. No prejudice against recreation when it is notable. talking  birds  19:02, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: Sorry guys, it has just been confirmed as a single on her OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pderrick13 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * We've already stated this. We know it exists. The question is, is it notable enough at this time for an article? talking  birds  19:50, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I already have stated this. However, it's way too premature.  Considering that they just released "I Want to Know What Love is" as the second single, things may change by the time the label actual releases a third single.  It's comparable to how "Say Somethin'" was juggled around quite a lot before it actually become the fifth single.  (And to the earlier comment about scoring points with admins, I resent that. :P ) SKS (talk) 20:06, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Suggestion Keep it at least until something (either this song or another) gets released as the 3rd single. Lots of people will look for it, it's more useful to have this article than to delete it. We can still delete it later if it never becomes a single. – Alensha   talk  13:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * COMMENT: I commented earlier to delete but now I think it should be kept! It's been confirmed for Radio releases on Mainstream and Rythmic radio. So it's definitley the next single. I expect it to chart on some component charts soon so there's no need to delete it and give someone the task of re-adding all the information!! Jayy008 (talk) 19:42, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Move: to "H.A.T.E.U.", that's its actual title. It's a Mariah Carey song, of course it's notable and will chart. Thankyoubaby (talk) 06:27, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, why on earth is a full page needed to state that a song has been selected as a single? We had the same issue with "Broken-Hearted Girl". Until the song is actually release or charts or there is extensive information and independent coverage this page should be deleted. Furthemore it should be protected to prevent unecessary remaking and re-hashing of the page. It really is not required at this stage in time. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 15:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC))
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.