Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H. P. Devitte


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ansh666 21:21, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

H. P. Devitte

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Fails WP:NOTABLE TinaG (talk) 20:20, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Having officiated senior international match, he passes WP:NFOOTBALL. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * - what is the difference between this person and Takumi Ogawa? Both pass NFOOTBALL but fail GNG, yet you !voted 'keep' at one and 'delete' at the other. GiantSnowman 14:55, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * . The distinction is one of recentism. In the case of a footballer who retired only last year, I would expect to find plenty of sources available online, making it pretty easy to tell just how clearly he fails WP:GNG. In the case of a referee whose most significant accomplishment was over a hundred years ago, a proper WP:GNG evaluation is going to be all but impossible since sources are not going to be as readily available. I should add that reading his WorldReferee profile makes it clear that other sources do exist. I also disagree with the premise that he only barely meets WP:NFOOTBALL. A player with at least three senior international matches would be an obvious keep even if it was their only claim to notability. I see no reason for it to be different for referees, as in both cases the people in question would have to be well established at the domestic level to make the jump to the international level. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - some WP:COMMONSENSE is needed here, and plenty of AFD precedent exists to say that barely passing WP:NFOOTBALL is not enough when you fail WP:GNG, see Articles for deletion/Oscar Otazu, Articles for deletion/Vyacheslav Seletskiy, Articles for deletion/Aleksandr Salimov, Articles for deletion/Andrei Semenchuk, Articles for deletion/Artyom Dubovsky, Articles for deletion/Cosmos Munegabe, Articles for deletion/Marios Antoniades, Articles for deletion/Scott Sinclair (footballer born 1991), Articles for deletion/Fredrik Hesselberg-Meyer (2nd nomination), Articles for deletion/Matheus Eccard, Articles for deletion/Roland Szabó (2nd nomination), Articles for deletion/Metodija Stepanovski and Articles for deletion/Linas Klimavičius, amongst others. GiantSnowman 14:54, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - He has refereed at least ten senior international matches, he passes WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. IJA (talk) 16:40, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - per WP:NFOOTY. Given that he was refereeing over a century ago, ten matches is a reasonable amount over a five year career. Also concerned about recentism. Fenix down (talk) 12:28, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
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