Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Habibullah Mir


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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Habibullah Mir

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Sarpanchs are not assembly or parliament representatives. They are simply village heads and thus fails to satisfy WP:POLITICIAN. Sadly, he was shot dead by the militants. The subject was "killed" not "assassinated". Please not to be confused with "this is the first attack on a panchayat member by militants this year. (It wasn't the first attack in the history of Kashmiri surpanchs). Kashmir is a war zone and such attacks are usually carried dozens of times in a year and dozens of Sarpanchs have been killed till date and hence fails to satisfy WP:GEN. The article says "his assassination was part of a campaign by extremist militants to eliminate elected local officials in Jammu and Kashmir state". Unfortunately, the campaign responsible for his killing is itself a non-notable event. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Note to closing admin Hunnjazal is the page creator. , please do not provide false information. His killing was not responsible for mass resignation, but members resigned over threats (warnings) issued by the militant outfits such as Lashkar-e-Taiba. "Out of 33,000 panchayat members, nearly 400 claimed to have resigned following threats by various militant outfits across the Valley". Also, there are not "1000s of news sources". All sources are "syndicated" i.e republican of the same news source. Please compare the provided sources. Editors study article and its sources before nominating them for deletion and i have done the same. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:41, 28 October 2020 (UTC) And Amnesty International source amnesty discuss the whole situation in Kashmir, not the subject in question independently. Furthermore, you are confused between "killing" and "assassination". TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Leaders of local governments are not "inherently" notable per WP:NPOL, especially when the locality is a village rather than a major city. But the article is not referenced anywhere near well enough to get him over WP:GNG, and having been killed (especially in a region where local political officials are frequently vulnerable to this) is not in and of itself a reason why he would pass the ten year test as a topic of enduring significance in an international encyclopedia. Bearcat (talk) 14:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. There were hundreds of news articles and TV coverage when he (and a few other sarpanches) were assassinated by extremists - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. There was some coverage in international media - British, British. This specific killing was discussed nationwide in India and resulted in calls for the state chief minister to resign (news, news), mass resignations across a large number of local chiefs in protest (news), cited by some NGOs (amnesty). So, yeah, pretty notable. --Hunnjazal (talk) 15:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * How is this false information exactly? This is directly from the news sources - "Panchayat members in Jammu and Kashmir fear for life, to tender mass resignations" (India Today) or "J&K: 20 panchayat members resign" (Indian Express). Also, how is it nefarious that I would vote to keep this? I will state my perspective freely, though is of limited interest to me at this time whether these articles stay or go - and you are the one who posted to my talk page to invite me to participate here! Why are you attacking me now when all I did was post mainstream news urls? Habibullah Mir and Zoona Begum are names that figured prominently on TV and print media when they were assassinated. They became famous initially because local elected officials (the Panchayat members) took to TV and print after "panic gripped the Valley after the suspected militants shot at the woman panchayat member Zoona and sarpanch Habibullah Mir" (verbatim quote from India Today, not my words). This is just provable fact and I have provided multiple valid Indian and British media links. They still figure in terror-related literature related to India (example - India's National Security: Annual Review 2014, Routledge, 2015). Millions of people have heard these names because they were famous for a while, so I don't know how to help you. I have nothing more to say on this. --Hunnjazal (talk) 07:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , You misunderstood what i said. Sources says, The Jammu and Kashmir Surpanch members resigned because they are "scared" and not because of as a "protest" against the killing of the subject. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 07:59, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. Hunnjazal if you are confident about your sources, perhaps try creating Killing of Habibullah Mir and perhaps that will survive (although probably won't because WP:NOTNEWS) — Ad Meliora Talk∕Contribs 20:34, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your suggestion. I might create something called Sarpanch Killings or something, but it won't be anytime soon (if ever). --Hunnjazal (talk) 07:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as the subject fails WP:NPOL and this sad incident has no long-lasting effects. -- KartikeyaS (talk) 20:32, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Tragic, but this is WP:1E that fails WP:LASTING, WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. I don't believe it would have much chance if rewritten as a event.  // Timothy ::  talk  01:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


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