Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Habibzai


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Popalzai. Clear consensus to redirect, but nobody has explicitly mentioned a target. Reading between the lines I'm led to believe the !votes are referring to Popalzai, but if I'm mistaken, and there isn't clear agreement, a talk-page discussion or RfD may be needed. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Habibzai

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Stumbled upon this stub while adding article descriptions in my commute. It's plausible that the subject exists, insofar as there are people with the last name Habibzai. But I've performed a WP:BEFORE and found essentially zero reliable sources discussing it. The Panjab Chiefs mentioned it but I question the reliability of this source, and it's literally one mention. There's a ResearchGate link but that's not a WP:RS. BeReasonabl (talk) 12:11, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions and list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. (talk) 12:15, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I have notified editors who have edited the article over its 10 year existence. BeReasonabl (talk) 12:27, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:16, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm a bit surprised to find that there isn't a notability guideline saying that people groups like this are inherently notable, but if such a guideline exists then I can't find it.  There don't seem to be sources to establish notability by the GNG.  GoldenRing (talk) 13:43, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - not sure how you can't find sources. 2 refs have now been added to article. In addition: The Mission to Kandahar: With Appendices By Harry Burnett Lumsden (1860) mentions Habibzai as a khel of the Tur Tarin, with 65 families. Administration Report of the Baluchistan Agency (1928) mentions the Hakim of the Habibzai. Frontier and Overseas Expeditions from India (1983) states that Habibzai was a hamlet of Kund Kuhai. Gazetteer of Pakistan: Names Approved by the United States Board on ... as a populated place. "On May 21st the force marched to Habibzai, and encamped in the open valley. A heavy night attack was prophesied, and it was rumoured that a band of Mohmands had arrived who made a speciality of night attacks." (Regimental History of the 6th Royal Battalion 13th Frontier Force Rifles). "Among these archaeological sites the most important is Spin Ghundai, within the limits of the Habibzai village , which was partly probed archaeologically in 1881 by Captain Lock ." (Balochistan: Land, History, People), "as also the tribes connected with this branch and known under the appellations Alizai , Nurzai , Saakazai , Ishakzai , Bamizai , Habibzai , Hasanzai etc." (Central Asian Review), "حبیب زی HABIBZAI A subdivision of the Alizai Duranis " (and Political Gazetteer of Afghanistan: Kandahar and south-central Afghanistan) etc, etc --Soman (talk) 14:05, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks Soman, you obviously have access to more physical resources than I do in this topic area. Do you believe there's enough WP:SIGCOV for this to remain a standalone article at this time, or should we be considering a redirect? I note that the other sept of the Popalzai, Sadozai, is already redirected. If so, I think we can close this AFD as a keep. BeReasonabl (talk) 22:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect per nom. The sources noted above seem to be providing passing mentions and little details. D4iNa4 (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Need a redirect target. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 10:55, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect - insufficient coverage for a standalone article; basically a DICDEF. - Sitush (talk) 14:38, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * I would recommend that Soman read the discussion at Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 172 which applies to many of those sources, including modern reprints of old publications that have come out of copyright. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.