Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hackney Free and Parochial C of E School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. JForget 02:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Hackney Free and Parochial C of E School

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Article does not assert notability of subject. RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 18:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete It's also blatant spam as it's written in the first person. Aiken   &#9835;  23:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Change to keep now that reliable sources discussing the topic have been found. Aiken   &#9835;  01:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep as a high school; the arguments for keeping are at WP:NHS. Sources are available to expand the page. The issues can better be resolved by editing rather than deletion. TerriersFan (talk) 23:45, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you willing to do the work, TerriersFan? Aiken   &#9835;  23:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep'. All high schools are notable, and the article has been improved since it was nominated. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * As I stated in my comment below, since this is a school for age 11-16, I consider this a middle school. Furthermore, I would not consider a middle school to be worthy of inclusion unless it was particularly outstanding, which does not seem to be the case with this article. RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 20:29, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I respectfully disagree. We should not allow any article to be exempt from using WP:V, WP:IRS and WP:OR just because of what it's about. Please prove that all high schools are notable – provide multiple sources that show significant discussion of the topic and I'll happily change my vote to keep. Aiken   &#9835;  00:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - easily meets my standards, is well-referenced, and is the sort of secondary school regularly kept at AfD. Bearian (talk) 01:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per WP:HS/N and because there's a bunch of interesting press coverage of the school, found readily via at Google News. See WP:BEFORE, especially #9 and #10.--Arxiloxos (talk) 01:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The article is about a school for those in the 11-16 age range, and is therefore a middle school. I nominated the article with the understanding that articles on high schools are generally included, articles on elementary schools generally aren't, and that articles on middle schools would be considered on a case by case basis. RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 20:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it is a secondary (high) school, in the UK. Aiken   &#9835;  20:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In the US, this would be considered a middle school. RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 00:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's in the UK though, so your point is irrelevant. Aiken   &#9835;  13:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Since the subject of this article is equivalent to a US middle school, I will treat it as a US middle school. 139.225.254.75 (talk) 20:48, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Not only is this an appalling US-centric comment, it is also inaccurate. Middle school age ranges vary from state to state but typically they are up to 14, two years lower than a UK high school. TerriersFan (talk) 01:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, when I said "equivalent", I should have said "roughly equivalent", which makes sense to me as the subject of this article serves ages 11-16. RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 21:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep because of the significant coverage in reliable sources. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep if it is a secondary school. I gather that of this type of school,  many terminate at that year,  while some of them have an optional program continuing to the age 18.  I don;t think this corresponds to a US  junior high school, but as the final educational level for most of the students would be a secondary school.It is routine and standard here for all high schools to be considered notable.    DGG ( talk ) 01:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You say that you "gather that of this type of school, many terminate at that year". Can you substantiate this? Also, wouldn't a large percentage of students graduating at 16 go on to a trade school? RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 21:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * UK high schools are not even roughly equivalent to US middle schools. The key criterion of a high school is that they provide the earliest recognized certification of educational attainment, whether referred to as a school leaving certificate, High school diploma, High School Leaving Certificate, General Certificate of Secondary Education, or IB Diploma Programme. Those graduating at 16 may go to a trade school but, unless they are academically able, most are likely to go straight into employment. TerriersFan (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.