Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hadith regarding the use of Nikah Mut'ah after Muhammad


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Nikah mut‘ah. Consensus that this does not require a separate article and should be merged (✉→ BWilkins ←✎) 11:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Hadith regarding the use of Nikah Mut'ah after Muhammad

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

While the hadith can be found on polemical sites, there are no reliable sources in English which I could find in regard to this specific hadith. All sources are primary except for one link to Answering-Ansar, a highly partisan site promoting a sectarian POV; it fails WP:RS, leaving the rest of the article with only primary sources. One of them - where Ibn Kathir supposedly said Ahmad Ibn Hanbal agreed with Nikah mut'ah - appears to be a blatant lie though I will have to check. In addition to failing WP:GNG, this also seems to be another one of Striver's trove of random articles about hadith used to push a Shi'ite slant - most of which have been deleted in past AfDs.

Striver was a good editor overall, but the general outcomes for AfDs regarding his hadith articles was usually to delete. Articles for deletion/Hadith of the demise of Muhammad, in which a large number of them were all deleted at one time, is a good indicator. See also Articles for deletion/Hadith in praise of Umar, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Striver/Umar's raid against Ahl al-Bayt, Articles for deletion/The land of Fadak and the Prophets inheritance and Articles for deletion/Ali opposed Abu Bakrs Kalifat. A great many more were simply redirected to other articles without formal deletion. I don't see why this article is any different. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator per User_talk:MezzoMezzo. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  07:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)




 * Keep. Delljvc (talk) 18:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Could you provide a rationale for keeping it? Per WP:CLOSEAFD, an AfD is closed based on the soundness of arguments, not a tally of votes. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:19, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete – Per MezzoMezzo and per the rationale in Articles for deletion/Hadith of the demise of Muhammad. Our main article on Hadith has reliable sources but this one seems not to. A very similar article that is also up for AfD is Articles for deletion/Hadiths regarding the legality of Nikah Mut'ah (3rd nomination). Whoever closes this AfD may want to look at the other AfD as well. There surely are better ways of improving our coverage of Hadith than this article. I really am not sure whether I should trust a single word of it. For the reader who wants to know more about Nikah Mut'ah in the Islamic tradition, they can check out the article that is devoted to it. EdJohnston (talk) 15:44, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Nikah mut‘ah as this is an unnecessary content fork as well. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, the hadith is an important tradition and hence an article relating to it is warranted. If anything is required is improving the article and adding more citations.-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 08:23, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Query There is no significant coverage in mainstream, scholarly publications; this article is the result of the OR of one user. What exactly makes it important? I'm not arguing, I'm asking honestly. I didn't find any significant coverage from reliable sources, and we know for a fact that per WP:OUTCOMES that the community has noticed attempts by the creator (who again was overall a great contributor, he just had some OR issues) to push a certain POV. I'm open to the fact that it could be important but I need to see more proof, as I haven't seen any yet. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:18, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC)




 * Merge There should be an article regarding Hadiths related to Nikah Mut'ah as the sub-article of Nikah mut‘ah. There is another article Hadiths regarding the legality of Nikah Mut'ah and we can merge these to article in a single article.-- Seyyed(t-c) 10:47, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge to Nikah mut‘ah as stated above if it's an important tradition.  D u s t i *poke* 17:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete per edjonston Pass a Method   talk  20:16, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.