Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haikaa Yamamoto


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 22:48, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Haikaa Yamamoto

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No reliable third-party sources to establish notability. OhNo itsJamie Talk 13:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

pls. dont be biased with me regarding this. i was just asked to add a reference to her book and add a picture on her page. She's got a yahoo reference. I didnt even made this article. I was http://finance.yahoo.com/news/haikaa-debuts-thought-provoking-book-174800209.html. This is really not my work, just minor edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eslima5 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You mean you were paid to add a reference to her book? OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)


 * very weak Keep I'd say this person in marginally notable.  The yahoo finance is just a press release.  Guitar International reference is best of bunch.  78.26  (talk) 16:20, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I say keep the entry. Haikaa is notable. She has numerous reviews from reliable third party sources out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.232.107.194 (talk) 02:59, 23 August 2012 (UTC) — 74.232.107.194 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. 
 * Delete - The Asian Connection links don't meet WP:N, the Yahoo Finance article is a press release, the Wildy's World url is a dead blog link, the Musicstreetjournal.com link is a dead link, the Humanity Project urls are for a 501(c) and not independent news coverage, and the only one that stands up to any scrutiny is the Guitar International article. As of right now she has 569 Likes on Facebook and a very distinct lack of WP:RS. I'm almost inclined to recommend this as a Strong Delete. Jun Kayama 04:13, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the nomination.--Juristicweb (talk) 18:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Rcsprinter  (chatter)  @ 20:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)



— Aventurasonora (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep - As the creator of this article, I would like to ask other Wikipedia users to consider the following. This entry is of global relevance. As it is clear on youtube where Haikaa's "Work of Art Global Project" video has had over 100,000 views - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2F3ph9QPCb8 -, her work inspires values such as respect, cooperation, self-acceptance, empowerment and collaboration. This entry serves as reference for people searching for information related to these topics, especially young people for whom Wikipedia is the starting point for research. I removed the broken links mentioned above and I appreciate the help from other users to improve this article in every way possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aventurasonora (talk • contribs) 18:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - YouTube videos don't mitigate the lack of WP:RS, especially when at the 0:37 mark it says in margins Buy on iTunes or Amazon. The question is not whether her work has merit, but rather whether the individual in question meets WP:N much less WP:ENT and no reliable sources have been forwarded. Even if I wanted to see the article float (and I am far more inclined to apply a fix if I can find reliable sources) there simply is not anything to support this article on the grounds of WP:RS. The values of "respect, cooperation, self-acceptance, empowerment, and collaboration" all have their own stand-alone articles which do not require this biopic article of Ms. Yamamoto for linkage. Unless there is demonstrated print or internet sourcing to the contrary this article deserves its AfD nomination. Jun Kayama 23:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * delete fails WP:BIO. you have to be kidding me if you think YouTube is a reliable source. LibStar (talk) 11:33, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Youtube is a democratic channel of communication where the usual media gate keepers do not get to impose their views on what they think deserves to be seen. Rather, people directly "cast" their vote on what they believe is worthy of their time. In addition to the 100,000 views her main video has received, her interview videos about the project in Portuguese http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqsNv51xhRg, English http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLxRklWPfL8&feature=relmfu, Japanese http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8DNddMlnHc&feature=relmfu, Spanish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxrCheeBLpM&feature=relmfu, Turkish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0_Gw3KdD3w&feature=relmfu and Italian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDyrAmfKzG8&feature=relmfu together have had another 30,000 views. I believe this points towards the validity of this work. Fame is a different concept from notability. As for the "buy on itunes" message, I would like to say that it is very much like the Jimmy Wales annual end of year request for money, except that Haikaa does that with a structure accessible to an independent artist, ie, through itunes. Any person working towards a humanitarian cause needs funding to finance projects and Haikaa is no exception. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aventurasonora (talk • contribs) 19:44, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - WP:NOTDEMOCRACY. Those YouTube interviews in question are user-generated and not from a recognizable media outlet that would enable it to pass WP:RS even if YouTube is a subsidiary of Google; the bar for user-generated content is not that low. Article is non-notable from either a WP:ENT standpoint or in other sphere work as of yet. Where is the multiplicity of artist and album reviews, conferences attended as an author, public appearances? WP:SOAP applies here; when a source is pushed as reliable and it shows a buy this album message in the margins it fails to achieve WP:RS and the virtue of the individual or cause is not a factor in establishing WP:RS. I'm willing to reconsider this position with immediate effect if there are any reliable sources - even an independent newspaper article - that either profile the artist without it being WP:PROMOTION or establish recognition through means other than YouTube hits. Otherwise, my vote remains as previous, especially since this article has work done on this article by now-banned "compensated editor" User:Eslima5. Jun Kayama 17:14, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete As discussed above, there are no secondary independent reliable sources which discuss her and the sources currently in the article are are promotionalCurb Chain (talk) 11:27, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
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