Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hajdin bej Draga


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The result was   keep. henrik • talk  07:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Hajdin bej Draga

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Fails WP:NOTABLE and WP:ONEEVENT. While the Declaration is itself notable, and many of its signatories are as well, it does not appear that this individual is notable for anything other than his signature. I cannot find anything about him in the literature. Since he is already listed at Albanian Declaration of Independence, Delete or Merge. Athenean (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 05:27, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Albanian Declaration of Independence until someone cares enough about bej Draga to learn more about him. There's no achievement in creating this article.  It's like getting a girl pregnant and then saying "good luck to both of you". Mandsford (talk) 18:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per reasoning of Eastmain in . *Keep each signatory of the Albanan independence or member of the Assembly of Vlora also for the following: These people were not important only for their signatures. They were not invited in vain, but as the best representatives of Albanian regions at that time. All the muslim names were given the title of "Bey" which signified that they had important military achievement for the Ottoman empire under their belt; in addition they were important land-owners, which makes them the equivalent of a nobleman in the western world. For this reason they were virtually unknown or wantedly so during the communist regime in Albania as the government didn't want to put big landowner names in the History of Albania (they were basically deprived of all their wealth), hence little has been written about them during the communist regime. However historians don't stop their research even in communist times and work much more after those time. They find that these people were the most important politicians of Albania at the turn of the XXth century. Extremely important for WP:NOTABLE. Keep in mind that you will see the greek plethora of ptolion, athenean, megistias, alexikoua make it very hard for these people to remain in Wikipedia through this voting. Most of these Albanian polititians are from Chameria hence the greeks want them deleted at any cost from the English speaking encyclopedia.sulmues (talk)--Sulmues 14:05, 11 January 2010 (UTC)--Sulmues 14:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge to Albanian Declaration of Independence.Alexikoua (talk) 09:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Subject passes WP:POLITICIAN.  kedadi al  13:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:POLITICIAN covers "Politicians who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office... members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature and judges.... Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. (Generally speaking, mayors are likely to meet this criterion, as are members of the main citywide government or council of a major metropolitan city.  Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article.")  Mr. bej Draga will live on as a redirect, until someone can write a real article about him. Mandsford (talk) 00:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge into Albanian Declaration of Independence. The article can be recreated if content is found which is not already at the Albanian Declaration of Independence article.--Ptolion (talk) 14:49, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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