Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haken-giri


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:03, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Haken-giri

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This poorly written essay appears to be a soapbox for the creating editor's own political views, but the main problem with the article is that the laying-off of temporary workers is not a uniquely Japanese phenomenon, and there is thus no need to have a special article dedicated to the Japanese term for this practice. DAJF (talk) 08:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  —DAJF (talk) 08:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  —DAJF (talk) 08:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I think it could be salvaged, but I'm not interested in doing it myself. Maybe it has its roots in a machine translation from the Japanese Wikipedia? The topic is a hot one in Japan, and the connections with the Koizumi reforms place it in the context of Japan, so even though the topic could find a place as a section on a similar practice worldwide, I wouldn't mind seeing it stay as a standalone article on Japan. Yet I'll stop short of a vote. Fg2 (talk) 10:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep It's the story of the year in 2009 -- the form that the financial crisis has taken in Japan.The translation needs a lot of work and it needs better English references, but the topic is important. Good English references shouldn't be too hard to find. If I were going to do it, I think I would want to restructure it by giving the background.
 * 1) Deregulation under Koizumi
 * 2) Changes in the labor laws
 * 3) Massive changes in the labor force, especially in manufacturing (took several years)
 * 4) Financial crisis and collapse = haken-giri (in 2 or 3 months)
 * 5) Backlash in the media
 * 6) Aftermath -- Margin1522 (talk) 22:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. If Margin1522 is willing to do that proposed work, I'll !vote for a suspension of this AfD (I forget the name of this) for a few weeks or even two months, to give the good-faith time to do it right -- which five days is not -- and so demonstrate the notability of the subject. If that doesn't work out, then bring it back as a lost cause. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep   for improvements as suggested and promised.  I think there is real potential here for an article. DGG (talk) 02:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Looks like original research. 114.158.117.221 (talk) 06:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.