Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hala Jahaj Eid Mosque Praying Ground for the Worship of Allha, our father, the beloved

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Hala Jahaj Eid Mosque Praying Ground for the Worship of Allha, our father, the beloved
The title of the article is grossly overlong, contains a typing error, and seems to be more descriptive than titular. The content of the article is barely understandable, and there's no sign that the creator User:Tahqiq Halid as Sab al Alami intends to do more (his sole contributions appear to be vandalism, including other page-creation examples). Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 14:22, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete. Vintermann 16:55, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Again, indecipherable to me and not sure that the subject would be notable if we could figure out what it was. I'm sorry, as I personally think we could probably use more articles on the Middle East, Arab culture, and Islam. Can someone decode this? HyperZonktalk 17:14, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, although everyone should know that this vote in no way implies disrespect for Islam. Fire Star 17:42, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete but gently. This contributor claims to have been active in the Arabic Wikipedia, his English is poor and he's only been here three days. It's a bit harsh to judge his intentions IMO, nor should we overlook his potential to contribute. We're a collaboration. Andrewa 17:55, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, but have you checked his contributions here so far? They're not really indicative of someone who genuinely wants to contribute.  I agree with HyperZonk that we need more articles on Middle-Eastern culture, and I'm gearing up to start adding some articles in my own areas of interest (philosophy).  To be honest, though, even if this user's interest was genuine, I think that the standard of his English would preclude him from contributing usefully (that's unrelated to my reason for starting the VfD. though). Mel Etitis  ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 18:06, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I did check his contributions, and user pages obviously, but perhaps not as thoroughly as I should have, and this vandalism has occurred since. Not promising I agree. No change of vote. Andrewa 20:29, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Concur with Andrewa, this user may not be able to generate final versions of article, but perhaps with some guidance s/he will be able to help those of us who know too little about that culture develop new articles. However, that guidance will certainly have to include ensuring that some context is included so we have a place to work from. HyperZonktalk 18:42, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. -- Necrothesp 18:43, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I could not establish which mosque this is after quite a bit of searching, and I suspect that it is not notable at all.   It might be a very small mosque in a small village.  Note that he has created a article on such a village.   Like Mel, I don't think we need to be especially solicitous towards this new user.  His contributions to date consist of outright vandalism of several articles: replacing entire sections of articles  with the word "ALLAH", replacing random words in several articles unrelated to Islam with the word "muslim", etc.  He also created three articles, all incoherent: this one, an article about a very small village in Saudi Arabia, and an article entitled Laughter of Allah.  The first two are now on VfD, and the third was redirected to Allah.  It may be that the grafitti and vandalism were sandbox activity and that it was cluelessness rather than malice; but one has to bend over backwards to be that charitable, especially since he claims to have experience on the Arabic Wikipedia. --BM 19:58, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete in a nice way. Jayjg (talk) 21:31, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, POV, not notable, not a very practical article name. Megan1967 22:54, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn. ComCat 02:29, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable. Jonathunder 02:53, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)
 * Delete. It would be great if this guy could contribute some proper articles about parts of the world likely to be overlooked by the English Wikipedia's disproportionately Western editors, but either his English skills and understanding of Wikipedia aren't good enough, or (as that piece of vandalism would indicate) he's some kind of troll and isn't editing in good faith. &mdash; Trilobite (Talk) 00:55, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Patent nonsense (a mosque where God is described as "our father"?) - and, incidentally, it's not clear that the creator even speaks Arabic.   The Arabic on his user page is an irrelevant copy-paste - stopping in mid-sentence - from a news item about recent events in Lebanon. My guess is that this is a troll trying to get tiptoed around by pretending to be a poor speaker of English editing in good faith. - Mustafaa 06:23, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - David Gerard 16:15, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Not an ancyclopedia article - no content. Delete. - Mike Rosoft 22:45, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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