Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Half Alive (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 14:10, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Half Alive (band)

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Non-notable band, fails WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. Lack of significant coverage. Flooded  with them hundreds 19:54, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: I created the article because it has gained attention on sites such as YouTube and Spotify (I know this does not mean the subject is notable), but mainly because it has received coverage by independent sources, notably Alternative Press (https://www.altpress.com/news/half-alive-dance-still-feel-choreography-music-video/) and Rock Sound (https://www.rocksound.tv/news/read/halfalive-have-announced-their-uk-debut-and-its-on-sale-now, https://www.rocksound.tv/news/read/introducing-halfalive-check-out-their-brand-new-video) . MikeOwen discuss  20:25, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:08, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:08, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Weak keep. I think these sources qualify this artist for WP:NMUSIC. [1 ] [2 ] [3 ] [4 ] [5 ] [6 ] (plus the AP) Awsomaw (talk) 17:30, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * , these are blogs (1, 2, 3) and primary sources (4, 5). Flooded  with them hundreds  17:43, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I know blogs usually aren't accepted because they're non-reliable, but onestowatch is owned by Livenation and frtyfve is owned by Instrumental. I read through rules about blogs, and in both of these blogs, the writers are professionals and there is editorial control, so they are reliable, no? Also, can you explain how #4 is primary? Thanks. Awsomaw (talk) 18:18, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * FranceRocks is an artist management company and is likely associated with the band. I don't know if these blogs are reliable or not but they look like fan blogs according to their descriptions - Onestowatch (collective of bloggers, music geeks, & concert fanatics based in sunny L.A.), Spinorbinmusic ("As a music junkie, I decided to change that. And to create a blog so that people can find a site..."), Frtyfve ("an independent music blog and your destination for new music"). As publications are not inherently reliable, their parent companies have little relevance to their essence in establishing notability for a topic on Wikipedia. Flooded  with them hundreds  19:16, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair. The NPR article (although not a full article) and the AP article makes up 2 sources. Here's another source that passes this band for WP:MUSIC #4. This is not a lot, but this band really does deserve a wiki article (personal opinion). Awsomaw (talk) 22:37, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Doesn't appear to meet the basic level of notability for a band yet. Has not been the "subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." Has not charted, must less had a certified gold record; has not released "two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels"; has not won a music award, or placed in a music competition. The band only performed their first live show in October 2018. In short, too soon. -- LeflymanTalk 23:49, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:33, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. - per Awsomaw's reasoning.  Aleccat  02:25, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Still Delete (or, alternatively, Draftify)- This band may have received some online coverage, but all the sources listed above by the article's creator are actually actually promotional blog entries, contrary to the Notability guidelines for Bands ("[E]xcept...Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings.") The two "Rock Sounds" entries even start exactly the same way, "Have you heard of half•alive yet? Well allow us to introduce you." The band's sole album, a debut "EP" came out last year with 3 songs, of under ten minutes. That's not an EP; that's a demo. EPs are a minimum of four tracks, up to 25 minutes. They are a new band; and haven't even released a proper album, on any indie label, much less a major record company. The individual members aren't notable in and of themselves. There are countless indie bands with similar credentials who haven't met the requirements to be covered on WP yet. Until "half•alive" meets that threshold, this article is promotional, not descriptive.-- LeflymanTalk 23:17, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Still Keep, but I really get the reasons to delete, so alternatively I would be fine with Draftify, so I could improve the article if necessary and if they receive further coverage (or chart), see if it then merits and article. MikeOwen  discuss  18:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


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