Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Halo.Bungie.Org (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Keep. The Land 20:30, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Halo.Bungie.Org
This article was deleted at Articles for deletion/Halo.Bungie.Org. Deletion review consensus was to undelete and immediately relist it here. Neutral. &mdash;Cryptic (talk) 21:26, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. HBO is a massive resource for Halo information and related subjects.  It's certainly notable.  Rogue 9 21:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Mike 21:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Alexa rank of 38,806 and doesn't look like 5000 forum users (anyone wanna count) --Pboyd04 22:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment and depite the media claim on the review page I don't think VoodooExtreme really counts as national media attention. Doesn't meet any criteria on WP:WEB --Pboyd04 23:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment User Profiles are a fraction of the number of people who post there. It actual has had over it's lifetime somewhere around 30,000 unique posters. Ask anyone who has every played for some amount fo time either Halo game and they will most certainly know what HBO is, with the number of sold products between the three games(four if you count the Mac version), plus a movie deal, I'm thinking that HBO is known nearly worldwide. That has to count as Notability--DanteThePoet 01:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I've played Halo never heard of it. And it doesn't meet the WP:WEB policy it needs to be delete by policy or we need to change the policy. If you can prove the 30,000 unique posters than I'd say keep but there is no proof, low Alexa rank, and no media attention it doesn't meet WP:WEB --Pboyd04 16:06, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Then you've never googled it, How's that for notability? Google Halo, HBO is the second website that pops up, second only to the actual Bungie Stuidos website. Google is far from the spyware Alexa is and much more accurate too--DanteThePoet 06:40, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Rogue.--KrossTalk 23:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Although the article is lacking now, halo.bungie.org within the realm of Halo-related sites is probably second only to the official website, Bungie.net (Alexa rank 4111), who regularly posts announcements on its forum. And please remember that Alexa only works on IE for Windows, and HBO probably attracts a more alternative-browser audience.
 * Comment Alexa is totally irrelevant. Why are we relying on a piece of spyware to determine if a site is notable or not?  That's what Alexa is, and those who actually know how to use and protect a computer will take steps to prevent it from tracking them.  Rogue 9 05:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep HBO is a huge site that reaches thousands of people and has most definantly achieved 30 000 individual posters on it's forums.--Commander Demitri Wolf 18:40, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep HBO has garnered significant media attention, as Louis Wu has been interviewed by CBS. That alone is capable of keeping it on this site, according to the rules.  Also, there are more than 9,000 unique posters on the forum, therefore it can be kept.  No doubt. User: Shadowsniper689 19:16 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep It has been quite often been stated by the members of the Bungie team that they post and frequent the HBO forums more often than their own forums. I believe that with that knowledge, it could be considered important.Masterskill 22:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep There is no doubt that HBO is and has always been the single most prominent and critical Halo fansite (and probably Halo website overall) since the first announcement of the game. As a longtime member of the Halo community, I can vouch for this without contestation. Any arguments for its omission must be couched from a position that the Halo community is insignificant, not one that HBO is insignificant within the community, which is blatantly erroneous.
 * Delete per WP:WEB. Sockpuppets/meatpuppets aplenty, too. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  17:03, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Look, I think halo.bungie.org is really, really cool.  I use it all the time.  It's nifty.  But Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory.  This shouldn't be here. Nandesuka 13:06, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.