Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Halo Engine


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The result was Delete  and redirect to Halo (series) Marasmusine (talk) 15:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Halo Engine

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The Halo series is notable. The engine powering the games? Not so much. Most of the content is covered in the respective video games articles, and the rest is minutiae. There's no secondary sources to my knowledge or a couple of searches that focuses specifically on the engine itself, aside from some first-party slideshows from Bungie themselves; fails to meet WP:GNG. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 17:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect: to Halo (series). Fails WP:N. Joe Chill (talk) 17:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean, but the other games engines, such as the Unreal Engine in Gears of War have their own articles. So why not the Halo Engine? General Heed (talk) 17:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The Unreal engine is licensed and used in many dozens, if not hundreds, of games. The Halo Engine is proprietary, which limits its scope and coverage. -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 18:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Joe Chill (talk) 18:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 14:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: While the series is very notable, I agree with David in that the engine itself isn't. The engine is nearly completely proprietary with only a couple of titles outside of halo using it. The only other notable source I have managed to find that discusses it, is an old Gamasutra Article where Bungie's head of production says that there is no plan on selling it. As such I say delete per WP:GNG. Noctrine (talk) 17:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I found another news article discussing a game engine used in the Halo series. SharkD (talk) 04:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Choosing The Game Engine That Can SharkD (talk) 04:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - The Halo Engine is a very notable engine. It may not be as widely used as the Unreal Engine, but nonetheless, Halo Engine is still very unique. It's been used in every Halo game so far (except Halo Wars) and it has even been used in another game called Stubbs The Zombie]. Plus, there are a few sources online about the Halo Engine. It's not a lot, but it is enough for an article. I say we keep the Halo Engine as an article. Who knows, perhaps in the future, the Halo Engine may be used in even more games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by General Heed (talk • contribs) 06:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. The article is filled with original research. The references only discuss Halo 3 and don't regard the game's engine as a separately notable subject. Moreover, most of them don't verify the article's text and none of them actually use the phrase "Halo Engine". The official name of the engine is rather unclear since the official developers—as well as most search results—don't capitalize "engine" and don't treat it as a proper name. From what I see, the engine is only used by the Halo series and Stubbs the Zombie. SharkD's "Halo Reach “AAA Engine”? and Choosing The Game Engine That Can offer some minor facts but don't provide nontrivial direct coverage of the subject and I couldn't dig up much better sources myself. — Rankiri (talk) 04:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The article seems to talk about Halo 3 but not about the engine itself. It needs coverage about the engine itself. MuZemike 06:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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