Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamad bin Khalifa Al Nahyan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Missvain (talk) 00:59, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Hamad bin Khalifa Al Nahyan

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There is no any reliable sources of Hamad bin Khalifa Al Nahyan being part of the Al Nahyan Royal family. All the references are related to Israeli football club or singer Omer Adam. His site and his organisation sites are registered several months ago. There is no any information in Arabic about him. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 19:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)


 * :Keep his purchase was covered the past few days in all israeli major and reliable news sources and all refer to him as part of the nahyan royal family. Second, just by purchasing this importent team makes him worthy of an article on wikipedia, let alone being muslem or arab purchasing such an anti arab football team. All those reasons, each one and all together is the rason this article be kept.Midrashah (talk) 20:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Lot of keep votes here but very little in them that point to sources clearly indicating gng. More discussion needed I think.
 * Redirect to Beitar Jerusalem F.C. as only claim to fame is ownership of that club. No independent notability that I can see. GiantSnowman 22:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * :Keep tons of news about this purchase in Arabic media, just google بيتار القدس all mentioning that he is part of the royal family, much of it being critical of the Sheikh for investing in a Zionist team, if the fact that he is part of the Al Nahyan Royal Family would at all be debatable they would dig it up and publish it. Also the government of UAE would surely speak up, if someone would just claim to be part of the royal family without any basis. Shemtovca (talk) 22:17, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Agree he is otherwise not so far notable. Disagree the purchase doesn't confer notability, it's a huge move and highly controversial yet over time looks shaped to be an important part of the future of Arab-Israeli relations. I'd wait, TBH... I know, I know, WP:NOTNEWS but anyone with a passing interest in the region will tell you this is (depending on POV, for better or worse) a big, long-term deal. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * KeepXavierGreen (talk) 15:19, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * update just saw this from an Israeli publication כאן חדשות Documents testify: The investor in Betar Jerusalem - a member of the distant circle of the ruling family . Since the primary question of this AFD was investigated and answered i believe this AFD should be closed as it makes suggestions that have been proven wrong. Part of WP:AFDEQ states Do not make unsourced negative comments about living people., i believe questioning someone's belonging to his family without basis falls into this category. Shemtovca (talk) 20:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I think this is borderline notability, but it seems like this person will continue to get additional coverage in the future. Several sources also describe him as the son of Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, including . This page also looks to be a duplicated with Mohammed bin Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 23:03, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * wallyfromdilbert, That is exactly the case. He is not a son of Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, being a very distant relative of a ruling family, who changed his name several years ago. He is known only for purchasing the Beitar and while it's itself a news, I don't belive it grants an independant article Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:12, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * comment I believe the page has enough to satisfy the GNG here are some reputable sources:
 * The Jerusalem Post
 * כאן חדשות
 * National Post
 * Reuters
 * Israel Hayom
 * Times Of Israel
 * ynet
 * Haaretz

Shemtovca (talk) 17:38, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plenty of coverage. N.B.: Not a fan. Bearian (talk) 17:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. The coverage is related to one recent event only. The notability is not inherited. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. The whole story is very strange. This reference 'https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/uae-owner-of-jerusalem-soccer-club-says-door-open-to-arab-players-1.9357016', which is supposed to be one of the most respectable sources in Israel, calls him "the son of the United Arab Emirates' President Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan", while Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan has only two sons - Sultan and Mohammed! So, how can we believe all these sources, if even most respectable of them do not check facts. There are no references to anyone named "Hamad bin Khalifa Al Nahyan" on any of the UAE official sites, as well as no any arabic news about him. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:14, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * comment response: So is your argument for deleting a page is that Haaretz didn't verify their report??? Thats a very strange standart to apply to deleting pages from Wikipedia. Here is someone who did verify their information and saw his documents https://www.kan.org.il/Item/?itemId=81167, they even got pictures of his ID card, he is not the son of the president. Aside of Haaretz saying he is son of the president, do you have any other reasons for deletion? Shemtovca (talk) 03:15, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Reply The Hebrew words for Prince, Chief, and President are the same, so the error may be in translation rather than in fact. The word (nasi, sorry I can't type Hebrew letters on my machine) is more vague in Hebrew than in English and it would not be inaccurate to describe his father as such. This may have then been translated incorrectly as "President" at which point a copy editor in English may have noticed the "President" had the "wrong" name and "fixed" it. Without seeing the original Hebrew I have no way of knowing, though. In any case, that's not a reason for deletion. Smartyllama (talk) 17:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ReplyShemtovca, no this is not my argument. My argument is that he is not member of the ruling family of Dubai, he is a distant relative, who changed his name several years ago. Hence he is known only for purchase of Beitar. The notability is not inherited, so, I don't see any reason for him having an independant article. Smartyllama, the translation does not matter - he is not a member of a ruling family, he is distant relative. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:08, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Reply
 * 1) majority of media coverage disagrees with you and refers to him as a member of the ruling family, wikipedia pages need to be based on the coverage / reliable sources. See sources cited above.
 * 2) The notability is also based on media coverage that predates the purchase of Beitar see &
 * Shemtovca (talk) 21:58, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per sources shown during this AfD. If this turns out to be a one event story I would change my vote in a second round of AfD but I think there are going to be more sources to come. Spudlace (talk) 08:31, 21 December 2020 (UTC)