Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamada Gaku


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep - nomination withdrawn with no Delete !votes remaining. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantomsteve (talk • contribs) 07:44, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Hamada Gaku

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Fails WP:notability (people), unless perhaps there is a reference for his winning the 11th Nikkan Sports Drama Grand Prix. I'm not sure even that makes him notable. Pdcook (talk) 20:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC) *Delete - If someone who knows Japanese checks, and doesn't find enough sources, that's good enough for me. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 20:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: This site says he won the prize, and that may be confirmed by the official site (linked at the bottom of the page), but I can't verify that because I don't speak Japanese. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. A Google News Search under "濱田岳" yields two hits, the first of which basically shows him as a cast member of a show, but doesn't appear to say more than that. The other is about an awards ceremony, but only mentions that he appeared in a film. A Google News Archive Search under "濱田岳" yielded 100 hits, but again, the few I translated using Google Translate seem to basically say "The cast of x included....". Google Books/Scholar have no significant hits under "濱田岳". Under "Hamada Gaku", Google News returned nothing, Google News Archive returned 3 hits, all saying just that he was in the cast for a program, Google Books returned 1 hit, again just in a cast list, and Google Scholar had nothing. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:49, 12 November 2009 (UTC) Change of !vote:
 * Keep per the references that have been found, which indicate notability - thanks for finding them. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 17:29, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: A message has been left at WikiPoject Films/Japanese cinema task force about this AfD --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:49, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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 * Comment: Please note that I do not know Japanese - I used Google Translate (hence the reason why I left a message on the WikiProject Films' Japanese Task Force's talk page). If you are basing your !vote purely on my Google searches, please bear that in mind. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 08:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC
 * Keep per below and above. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 00:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Poorly-formed article by, apparently, a Japanese-speaking first-time editor. The type who should be encouraged here rather than bitten... Article is on a young actor who already has an extensive list of high-profile film and television work. Walkerplus shows him at the #2 spot of the cast for an Ultraman film. A search on Cinema Topics Online shows him at several articles, including THIS ONE (google-cached to highlight his name) where he's interviewed along with the cast of the film Ahiru Kamo no Coin Locker. Add in the award, and the fact that Japanese media is notorious for staying off the Internet (meaning there are bound to be many print sources on the actor which cannot be located through Google), and I highly doubt that a US actor of this prominence would show up at AfD. Seems to be quite notable. Otis Criblecoblis (talk) 23:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article needs editing, but as Mr Criblecoblis says, this would seem to be a fairly prolific young actor. I, too, can't help suspecting that appearing in every episode of something comparable to Operation Love would be enough for an American or British actor to pass the notability bar. --Paularblaster (talk) 02:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Checking the credential of Mr. Otis Criblecoblis, leads me to believe that this is a WP:BIAS issue, and many sources can be found. Articles are deleted for being unsourcable, not for being in a bad shape at present. Power.corrupts (talk) 12:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Seems notable in light of new references. Pdcook (talk) 14:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I've just sourced the award from the Nikkan Sports site. According to MOS-JA, the article's name should be "Gaku Hamada", and it can be moved after the AfD closes. I think it can be speedy-closed since the nominator has changed !votes... Pdcook-- thanks for reconsidering your position. Just some friendly advice: Articles on non-English topics should be given the benefit of a doubt. The language barrier is not the only issue, sourcing for those subjects-- while it may likely exist-- is rarely as easily available online as it is for English-language subjects. When in doubt, a note to a Wiki-project will help get more experienced eyes on the subject. (Oh, and Credentials? I've got credentials? ;) Otis Criblecoblis (talk) 20:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. At the very least, this certainly vetted the article and whipped it into shape! Thanks for your work. Pdcook (talk) 22:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I would support speedy keep, but as I understand it everyone would have to change their vote. Is that right? Pdcook (talk) 22:59, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. With nomination withdrawn and all editors initially in favour of deletion changing their minds, who do we get to close this? --Paularblaster (talk) 01:07, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Snow keep of withdrawn nomination, as notability has been met.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
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