Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamed Minhaj


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 18:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Hamed Minhaj

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Formerly a PROD, which was then deleted and then restored as contested per a talk page appeal. No evidence of notability from multiple, non-trivial reliable sources. There are claims of mentions in newspapers, but these have not been sourced, despite giving the author a reasonable amount of time to find these. For being so notable, very few third party sources about his company can be found; not even the usual press release-type material seems to exist anywhere other than on the site. I took this to indicate a possible WP:HOAX, but your mileage may vary. -- Kinu t /c  01:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hoax or no chance at notability. Someone with an account very close to the author claims to have sources, but they haven't shown up. Perhaps there is FUTON bias, but the lack of any mention of such a noteworthy person means it's a hoax, an advert, or an entirely non-notable individual. In any case, delete. tedder (talk) 02:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note about usernames note the two very similar usernames: User:Mike6565 and User:Mick6565. It's easy to overlook the difference, especially since they are both single-article accounts. tedder (talk) 02:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note about userspace article there is another version of this in userspace: User:Mike6565/Hamed Minhaj. If this is deemed a hoax, I encourage the closing admin to delete that version too. tedder (talk) 02:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment by author Dear All,

I do not need to create a hoax or waste my time or anyone else. i am writing to help by covering people from countries that don't get attention from everyone. these people are notable and have done alot of good work. i don't claim to have the newspapers. I DO HAVE THEM. i will be more then glad to email or upload to you guys for checking or anything that you guys see fit. Please do not delete something that i have worked hard on it. as i have mentioned that i am willing to provide more info for you guys. i have the documents from afghanitan investment commission which clearly states this companies investment and works. please advice where do i load them. as i have mention they are hard copies. Please kindly do not treat every country like developed countries where all the news and stuff is avaiable online.

please do help me and guide to the right direction.

2 October 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike6565 (talk • contribs) 12:20, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: a majority of the article also seems to focus on what the subject intends to do as an entrepreneur. Very little seems to be about why the subject is notable now, which also appears to be an issue of WP:CRYSTAL. Can you please shed some light on what aspects of the WP:BIO and/or WP:GNG criteria the subject meets? -- Kinu t /c  22:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment by author Dear Kinu,

maybe the way i wrote is not perfect, it may need touch up to get it acceptable to wikipedia standards. i will name few of the points for you

1) His company is the first malaysian company to invest in Afghanistan according to kabul weekly newspaper and afghanistan times. 2) His foundation is a very active in the country. providing for the poor and orphanage around the country which is also been covered in kabul weekly newspaper. 3) This is the second company to secure the edible refinery license in the afghanistan and upon completion making it the biggest. 4) after my full research he is only 25 years old. he start at the age of 16. at a such a young age he has achived so much again covered in kabul weekly. 5) actively promoting afghanistan to international companies. 6) currently in talks with major banks from malaysia to joint venture in afghanistan according to companies press release and story covered by afghanistan papers 7) Owns 7 soccer teams in afghanistan and one of the main sponsor of the sport in afghanistan. this covered in tv's in aghanistan upon his company sponoring the soccer teams.

there is alot more about this person and his work. i am very sure he is a full notable person.

kindly rest assured i have done my home work and have done a full research on Hamed Minhaj and his compaines before i wrote this article. i have all the hard copies with me.

02/10/09 mike6565 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike6565 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Mike6565, can you post the information about a few of the most major articles about him? In other words, post the title of the article, the page number/section in the paper, the name of the paper, and the date of publication? That way some of WikiProject Afghanistan can help verify. tedder (talk) 03:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions.  -- tedder (talk) 03:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as lacking notability. Crafty (talk) 04:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment by author Dear Tedder,

As requested kindly find the following:

1) Kabul Weekly news paper No. 356 on 27 May 2009, Front page tile.YOUNG, AMBITIOUS, ENTREPRENEUR AND ROLE MODEL TO HIS GENERATION. 2) Me & You weekly on saturday 7/03/2009 front page 3) Me & You weekly on 14/03/2009 front page 4) Kabul weekly on 11/02/2009 page 3 under report. tile Wamata Corporation, Malaysia Joint Venture With Local Afghan's Expertise Spearheading Investment and Construction Projects in Afghanistan. 5) Afghanistan times on 11/02/2009 front page Wamata corporation speardeading investemtent in afghanitan 6) Shba Daza Magazine page 23 7)Copies license and investment document of the edible oil refinery from ASIA ( Afghanistan investment commission) 8) copies of License from ASIA for wamata corpoation

in kabulweekly they have wrote about him in almost 2 pages from his young days till today. about his foundation and so on. i hope the above has helped and willing to help more if needed be.

I have all the hard copies.

mike6565 03/10/2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike6565 (talk • contribs) 12:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment by author Dear All Admins

Please kindly help me to make this article better, i mean if someone can help to rewrite it with information provided with better English. and kindly remove the tags from the account. i have been cooperative with information requested. if i can be any further help then please feel free to ask. once this is done, i want to start on my next article.

thanking all of you for your kind help in this matter.

mike6565- 10-10-2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike6565 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC) *Delete as nominated. Not notable. I also agree with the WP:CRYSTAL concerns. Crafty (talk) 20:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC) Striking my own duplicate vote. Crafty (talk) 20:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment by author Dear Craftyminion,

why would you say it is not notable. i have read the rules for notable on wikipedia, it say if the person is covered in a third party publication then it can be consider notable. this person is cover in above newspapers and magazine. i have provide you with the full list, with dates, and numbers. so i am sure that this person is notable. and has done a lot work at his young age.

Please explain your reason, then simply saying delete or not notable. i am sure that everyone here is trying to help and expand the Wikipedia with the right information.

thank you mike6565- 10-10-2009- 4:39 AM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike6565 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you crafty

mike6565-10-101-2009. 4:53 AM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike6565 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment you might want to hold your gratitude Mike. I struck my !vote because I forgot I'd already !voted 8 days ago to delete this article on notability grounds. This was partially me not paying attention but it's also because your scattergun posting style makes it extremely hard to read this page. Crafty (talk) 21:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  21:46, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Comment: Note that notability is established through significant coverage in reliable sources. The sources you provide are a start, but without actually seeing the sources, a) they cannot be verified, and b) merely being mentioned in a newspaper, especially on a local scale, is not an indicator of actual notability per WP:BIO versus local importance. Also note that the Kabul Weekly IS online (the author linked to it himself in the article); however, there seems to be no mention of this subject found in the archives. -- Kinu t /c  22:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete insufficient notability to pass WP:BIO. B figura  (talk) 04:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment by author Dear Kinu,

If you guys want i can mail the hard copies i have. kabul weekly online is not working, you can check yourself. i have the hard copies of these newspapers. it is not one to say he was merely mentioned. if you look at the list i provided, it has all the papers with date, number, pages and articles.

if i could be any more help, please feel free to ask. mike6565-10-10-09, 8:10 pm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike6565 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment PLEASE sign your comments!!!! You can do so by typing 4 consecutive tildes (~). I have noticed that you have been told already numerous times to sign your comments in you talk page, but you seem to not understand... Thanks!  Jolenine  ( Talk  -  My Contribs ) 20:01, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

ok, Thank you Jolenine, --Mike6565 (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
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