Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamid Babazadeh


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:59, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Hamid Babazadeh

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Non-notable? Non-English language reference sources, one of which is a fansite. Pesky ( talk  …stalk!) 11:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Since this is their national team, at a professional level, doesn't that automatically qualify him as 'notable', just as we list all athletes who participate and have actually played a game at the professional level? He is also the goalkeeping coach for a national team, which *seems* to be a second reason to be notable.  Dennis Brown (talk) 12:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 18:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:35, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - the nominator states that the article only has non-English language references. Why is that relevant? Jogurney (talk) 19:22, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply As you obviously know, it isn't relevant on Wikipedia. The nom just may not know that.  It isn't listed in WP:ATA but should.  Many of his other noms use a question as a rationale as well.  Assuming good faith, but reading WP:AFD may be helpful to the nom.  Dennis Brown (talk) 23:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:23, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - WP:NFOOTY justifies notability for football managers, not for other members of the technical staff. Furthermore, he is not notable even as a football player, since both teams he played for were competing then at the second and third divisions of Iran. Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 10:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. Apparently, he might pass WP:GNG due to heaps of articles about him in Persian. (as shown by TonyStarks below) However, since i'm not exactly fluent in that language, i cannot say for sure if they are WP:ROUTINE or not. Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 05:42, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Esteghlal was playing in the top division when Babazadeh was with them every season except 1993-1994. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:00, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I know that we shouldn't quote WIkipedia articles, but until 2001 the Azadegan League was not professional, thus failing WP:NFOOTY. Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 07:46, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Easily passes WP:NFOOTY. Played for Esteghal in the Iranian top flight, national cup (winning it in 1995) and the AFC Champions League (winning it in 1990, reaching the finals in 1992 and the semi-finals in 1997). Exact stats are not available to confirm whether he played or not but I think we can safely assume that he made at least 1 appearance in the 7-8 seasons spent at the club. Also, his name is mentioned on some forum talking about Esteghlal's 1990 Asian Cup triump: TonyStarks (talk) 05:03, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per TonyStarks' research. Playing in the ACL finals is certainly noteworthy and ought to satisfy our notability guidelines. Jogurney (talk) 14:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * How? I don't think there is enough media coverage about him to satisfy WP:GNG, and he does not pass WP:NFOOTY, since he never played or managed a team in a fully-professional league and as a player he hasn't represented his country in any officially sanctioned senior international competition... unless i'm missing something. Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 14:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, the Asian Champions League is the most notable competition for most Asian footbal clubs. I also found that he was part of the Iran squad that finished 3rd at the 1988 AFC Asian Cup - although he didn't appear in any matches. I can't see if he actually appeared for the Iran senior side in a FIFA international. Jogurney (talk) 03:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In reply to Kosm1fent .. and just to add to the stuff already mentioned above, he might not have a lot of media coverage in English sources but when you look up his name in Arabic/Farsi (حمید بابازاده), you get tons of hits. I don't understand Farsi but most of the links are football related so I'd say he passes WP:GNG (plus passing WP:FOOTY for what I mentioned above.TonyStarks (talk) 00:33, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If so, then he might indeed pass WP:GNG. But i'm not convinced at all that he passes WP:NFOOTY... Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 05:42, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
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