Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hand shogi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus to not keep. No consensus whether a redirect to Shogi variant is merited. All are free to create (and then to contest) such a redirect.  Sandstein  06:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hand shogi

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I could not find reliable and independent sources. There is an unsourced entry on Shogi_variant so maybe it could be come a redirect to that. But as far as I can see all we have the chess variants page and the inventor's book. Slimy asparagus (talk) 10:06, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Slimy asparagus (talk) 10:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Slimy asparagus (talk) 10:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arkansas-related deletion discussions. Slimy asparagus (talk) 18:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Shogi_variant (I'll add the following source to that article). This clearly exists, as this source indicates, but there is zero in-depth coverage about this variant. Current article is wholly sourced by a single, unreliable source, which was created by the person who created this variant.  Finally, this article has nothing to do with Arizona, whoever is "insisting" it does is doing so based on the variant's creator being from Lewisville, Arizona.  However, the creator is from Lewisville, Arkansas.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I get the impression that book is self-published so does not really prove very much. Slimy asparagus (talk) 18:06, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * comment I have found even less so sources for Unashogi. So I am probably going to PROD that one.Slimy asparagus (talk) 18:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * the same also holds for Cannon shogi. Slimy asparagus (talk) 17:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment I improved the article, but have no knowledge of its notability. — kwami (talk) 20:30, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. I wonder if the issue is 'bad name'. Anyway, right now this does fail WP:V badly and likely, WP:GNG, but this does seem like something that could be rescued. Also, while just saying WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES is bad, the odds are decent that whatever good sources, if any, exist, may do so in Japanese. Oops, missed the major fact that this is an American variant. Well, if there are no sources in English, then this likely is not notable. Switching to weak delete, but ping me if better sources are found. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:55, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Even with the improvements, there is no evidence of notability from the sources: delete.Resowithrae (talk) 23:00, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Shogi_variant.4meter4 (talk) 02:46, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


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